uhhh... why don't they just BEAM down

[trekkerguy]

^ Boggles the mind - it really does. Just how absolutely negative people can be based only on rumors and a couple of trailers totaling less than 5 minutes of screentime.

Good grief, lighten up, folks. It's only a MOVIE. Why not at least try to find some enjoyment in something for a change? Because it must be a really grim existence to spend your time worrying, fretting, and complaining about a MOVIE. Especially a MOVIE which hasn't even come out yet and about which we know very little.

I swear...sometimes I think a bunch of you guys WANT to hate this movie. I mean, you REALLY, REALLY want to hate it in the worst possible way. For what reason I cannot even begin to imagine...but you REALLY want to hate it.

And sorry...but I just don't get that. I really don't.

*shakes head in disgust*

Im inclined to agree. Come May, throw down the 10 bucks or whatever the cost of ticket may be, go see the movie, then we can all sit down and discuss it.

Its hardly fair to say the script is crap, or the movie is crap based on a small fraction we have seen of the movie itself via trailers and such. You cant tell me that them skydiving instead of beaming down to the planet is a deal breaker for some of you.

You're right. TREK BBS is only for people who love everything they're seen about this movie despite the fact that they've seen no more then those who don't like what they see.

Why the fuck is their opinions any less valid then yours? Every time someone says something negative about this God's Gift of a movie to everyone, we get ganged up on and ragged on.

It's funny that when someone attacts the movie, it's the poster who gets attacted. How about just saying why you do like the movie?

Let me sum this up. Everyone who likes or dislikes this movie based on 30 seconds of trailer and miscellaneous footage, already have their minds fucking made up. But enough of this fucking picking on people just because they don't like something. They don't like what they see. Don't take it so fucking personally.

I'm taking this personally because few bad apples, inluding some mod posts, really have been turning me off from this site, as I'm sure it's turning others away simply because they feel bullied and afraid to post their opinions.

It's all just fucking pathetic.

Well let's see... oh yeah! Some of us are Star Trek fans, so we naturaly
are optimistic and excited about a new Star Trek production!

So for people who claim to be Star Trek fans to be so against it over
ridiculously trivial things, it's all just fucking pathetic.

 

[Lashmore]

And to some, to be a trek fan in any way or form, despite what you argue like or dislike, is pathetic in itself.

ooooo burn

 

[M'Sharak]

Okay, if everyone's all done calling everyone else pathetic, can we get back to the actual topic now?

 

[Akiraprise]

They do beam down...to Vulcan. :P

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

I want to clarify, when I started this topic it was not a diss on the film.. I want to see it badly, but I was curious why they don't beam down.

That's all

 

[Captain Pike]

It's a bit premature though. There is virtually no context to go on in what must be a second or two of the scene shown.

The only way we could gain that context is if either the script is leaked or we actually wait until we see the movie first.

The "lol" bit in the opening post seems as though you are laughing at what seems a silly thing - when in fact we can't tell if it is silly or not until we have context.

 

[ROBE]

Okay the “drilling” platform is shielded against attack and anyone beaming onto it, but not against skydiving. When Kirk and Sulu damage it the shields collapse and the Enterprise can then beam them up at the last minute.

 

[SalvorHardin]

4) Also those masks on the Romulan(?) guards holding Nero look like something out of a TNG episode in both design and budget.

Klingon guards

 

[EyalM]

A better question might be: how can Kirk and Sulu walk around the platform, several kilometers above the surface, and not suffocate?

 

[SalvorHardin]

A better question might be: how can Kirk and Sulu walk around the platform, several kilometers above the surface, and not suffocate?

Force field around the platform keeping a viable atmosphere in ?

Not that we know anything substantial about all this situation anyway, as always.

 

[Cyke101]

No love for 80's music?

I lived through the 80s. Its musical best is not well represented by the likes of Europe..

Perhaps Living on a Prayer by Bon Jovi would be more fitting?

 

[Admiral2]

Instead of parachuting or diving or whatever... LOL

Cause new trek gotta have X-Games in it, dude! Yeah! X-Games and rap!!

It's typical JJ mentality.

 

[Cyke101]

Instead of parachuting or diving or whatever... LOL

Cause new trek gotta have X-Games in it, dude! Yeah! X-Games and rap!!

It's typical JJ mentality.

Errr... as it was pointed out earlier in the thread, Braga and Moore came up with the concept when they were writing Generations more than a decade ago. We even got to see B'Lanna Torres do it, and you know damn well that if Voyager does it, it can't possibly be extreme.

 

[datas_cat_spot]

Instead of parachuting or diving or whatever... LOL

Cause new trek gotta have X-Games in it, dude! Yeah! X-Games and rap!!

It's typical JJ mentality.

Errr... as it was pointed out earlier in the thread, Braga and Moore came up with the concept when they were writing Generations more than a decade ago. We even got to see B'Lanna Torres do it, and you know damn well that if Voyager does it, it can't possibly be extreme.

Not to mention, the Shat him self seems to be a fan of the idea being that he included it in his own writing.

 

[shapeshifter]

I hope the reason they cannot beam down is something other than technobablic bull.

It needs to be a truly realistic reason or mainstream may be turned off by it.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Look, here's the deal: there's a need to put something visually exciting and novel into the movie so as to get people to want to see it.

Given that it's a Star Trek movie, that's a nearly unsurmountable challenge. They're trying, though.

 

[RobertScorpio]

^ Boggles the mind - it really does. Just how absolutely negative people can be based only on rumors and a couple of trailers totaling less than 5 minutes of screentime.

Good grief, lighten up, folks. It's only a MOVIE. Why not at least try to find some enjoyment in something for a change? Because it must be a really grim existence to spend your time worrying, fretting, and complaining about a MOVIE. Especially a MOVIE which hasn't even come out yet and about which we know very little.

I swear...sometimes I think a bunch of you guys WANT to hate this movie. I mean, you REALLY, REALLY want to hate it in the worst possible way. For what reason I cannot even begin to imagine...but you REALLY want to hate it.

And sorry...but I just don't get that. I really don't.

*shakes head in disgust*

Im inclined to agree. Come May, throw down the 10 bucks or whatever the cost of ticket may be, go see the movie, then we can all sit down and discuss it.

Its hardly fair to say the script is crap, or the movie is crap based on a small fraction we have seen of the movie itself via trailers and such. You cant tell me that them skydiving instead of beaming down to the planet is a deal breaker for some of you.

You're right. TREK BBS is only for people who love everything they're seen about this movie despite the fact that they've seen no more then those who don't like what they see.

Why the fuck is their opinions any less valid then yours? Every time someone says something negative about this God's Gift of a movie to everyone, we get ganged up on and ragged on.

It's funny that when someone attacts the movie, it's the poster who gets attacted. How about just saying why you do like the movie?

Let me sum this up. Everyone who likes or dislikes this movie based on 30 seconds of trailer and miscellaneous footage, already have their minds fucking made up. But enough of this fucking picking on people just because they don't like something. They don't like what they see. Don't take it so fucking personally.

I'm taking this personally because few bad apples, inluding some mod posts, really have been turning me off from this site, as I'm sure it's turning others away simply because they feel bullied and afraid to post their opinions.

It's all just fucking pathetic.

Sorry, Patrick, but nit-picking a film before it comes out, and then dumping all over paramount for even going with JJABRAMS is abit too much. I shall give you a brief history lesson....NEMESIS sucked. And because it sucked, Paramount went in a whole new direction. Parmount knows it will alienate fans, such as yourself, and they can live with it, as I can.

Fans who bash on something they haven't even seen, or lavish it, can give their opinions, but they do so at their own risk. And getting all mad and hiffy because people are bashinig your negative, or even positive points, is really very childish.

PS...if you are someone who has a problem with movies made for entertainment rather than JPL grad students, and we lose you as a fan??? Then you are the kind of fan Paramount is trying to weed out...and I for one stand with Paramount (so long as the movie is good)

Rob

 

[RobertScorpio]

I hope the reason they cannot beam down is something other than technobablic bull.

It needs to be a truly realistic reason or mainstream may be turned off by it.

Maybe the transporters are out? Its too early to say...But for some of the other posters to go all ballistic over something they haven't seen is way to much over kill...get a life folks, or these next three months are going to be agony...

Rob

 

[M'Sharak]

A better question might be: how can Kirk and Sulu walk around the platform, several kilometers above the surface, and not suffocate?

Depends how many kilometers it is, really. There are more than a few major cities on Earth at elevations of two kilometers or better, and Everest (nearly nine kilometers) has been scaled without bottled oxygen more than a few times. Granted, Vulcan's atmosphere is thinner, so nine kilometers would probably be too extreme, but being a few kilometers up isn't automatically fatal. However, shortness of breath after a relatively small amount of exertion would be expected; Sulu should be wiped out after his duel with the Rather Large Romulan.

 

[shapeshifter]

I hope the reason they cannot beam down is something other than technobablic bull.

It needs to be a truly realistic reason or mainstream may be turned off by it.

Maybe the transporters are out? Its too early to say...But for some of the other posters to go all ballistic over something they haven't seen is way to much over kill...get a life folks, or these next three months are going to be agony...

Rob

Please do not lump me in with the fundies, I am not. My fandom has survived a million Trek inconsistencies. I get that change is necessary for the future of Trek and I embrace this movie until such time it gives me reason not to.

I'm just saying, based on my experience; technobabble turns some people off to Trek. One of my immediate family members, who I'd raised from birth to be a Trekker one day suddenly stopped being a fan altogether because the story's so often over came threats with technobabble.

This film, imo, needs to avoid technobabble to the Nth degree. The transporters being down because the ship was fired on would be fine but if it's some freaking sort of *insert technobabble here* then I believe that's something to be at least a little worried about.