U.S.S. TITAN -- THE WINNER!

[Trent Roman]

Posted by S. Gomez:
So why are there only FOUR ships (G, H, I, J) launched in twice the amount of time? Obviously, this is something of a moot point since that timeline never comes about, but it does seem funny.

You forgot "F". Anyway, maybe the later versions of the ship have longer lifespans; the ENT-D was very young when she was destroyed. Alternatively, maybe they will decide to let the name lie fallow for a while. There's a not inconsiderable amount of time between the loss of the ENT-C at Narenda and the launch of the ENT-D.

But was the ENT-J from "Azati Prime" an alternate timeline? My impression of what Daniels said was that the Sphere Builders had foreseen that they would lose the battle involving the ENT-J to the Federation, which is why they went back in time to try and prevent it from being founded in the first place. If Archer hadn't succeeded, then there would have been no Federation, and certainly no Enterprise, for the Sphere Builders to fight in the 26th century.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman

 

[Stevil2001]

Posted by Trent_Roman:
But was the ENT-J from "Azati Prime" an alternate timeline? My impression of what Daniels said was that the Sphere Builders had foreseen that they would lose the battle involving the ENT-J to the Federation, which is why they went back in time to try and prevent it from being founded in the first place. If Archer hadn't succeeded, then there would have been no Federation, and certainly no Enterprise, for the Sphere Builders to fight in the 26th century.

It is indeed an alternate timeline because the Delphic Expanse still existed in the 26th century in "Azati Prime"--indeed, it had expanded. But in "Zero Hour," the NX-01 destroyed the sphere network and thus the Expanse.

So, the Guardians essentially hastened their own doom. Because of seeing a future where they lost in the 26th century, they recruited the Xindi to help destroy Earth, thus ensuring that the NX-01 would make its way to the Expanse and discover a way to destroy the sphere network.

 

[S. Gomez]

Posted by Trent_Roman:
You forgot "F".

Whoops...

Well, sit me in the corner and slap a dunce cap on my head!

EDIT: And I never really intended to be all that serious about it, I just thought it was kind of funny that after nearly a century between ships named Enterprise there was this sudden outpouring of goodwill for the name, as if without it Starfleet would fall apart!

 

[Sxottlan]

It looks alright and does improve greatly if you hit "view image" to blow it up some. I think I like the silhouette the most. It's kind of grown on me since first seeing it (it's better than what has been posted over in Trek Art, but we have the runners-up yet to see). Besides Challenger, it's good to have a series' Starfleet vessel with downswept nacelles.

I think that personally, the winner was going to have an uphill battle with me anyway with so many great fan-created designs out on the web already. A "Mirandized" version of each class that has had an Enterprise is a pretty popular choice and so indeed it is nothing too new.

I guess I can see why people might want to see new designs moving more towards the Enterprise-J. However, that design is five generations of starship away. Besides getting more and more sleek (I was forgetting that the Luna-Class ship had been put on hold for awhile), I don't think we'd see any real hallmarks of that ship for awhile yet.

And I see no reason to throw out the established Enterprise-J since that timeline apparently won't happen. We've seen the Negh'Var-class start in an alternate future and then return in the regular one (with some changes).

Posted by Captain X:
The huge nacelles without a larger primary hull gives it something of an unbalanced look, particuliarly from the side, and being flush with the bottom of the secondary hull gives it a runabout vibe and blocks off the view of the tratiional undercut in the hull.

That's pretty much my one real problem with it too.

 

[Bobatiel]

Posted by sxottlan:
It looks alright and does improve greatly if you hit "view image" to blow it up some.

I don't get an option of "View Image" when I right click on it.

I'm running Windows XP, is that why? I'd like to be able to see a bigger version as well.

 

[Sxottlan]

Posted by Bobatiel:
I don't get an option of "View Image" when I right click on it.

I'm running Windows XP, is that why? I'd like to be able to see a bigger version as well.

I have Windows XP and it's working for me. I downloaded the pictures off the site and hosted them at Photobucket. Let's see how it looks here:

Yup. It's bigger here. How does it look for you?

 

[Emissary of the Prophets]

I'm still batting for this design. I think that a lot of people are being small minded about it.

 

[Turtletrekker]

^^
Agreed.

 

[Bobatiel]

Posted by sxottlan:
Yup. It's bigger here. How does it look for you?

Looks bigger, better and clearer. Thanks so much!

How about the other views?

(Dunno why I don't get a "View Image" choice.)

 

[Julio Angel Ortiz]

Posted by Emissary of the Prophets:
I'm still batting for this design. I think that a lot of people are being small minded about it.

I think more people like the design than not, if I have been reading this thread correctly. I don't really understand the criticism- it fits the criteria of the contest and gave us a different looking ship for a series than most others (just like the ship in S.C.E).

 

[Yassim]

Posted by Julio Angel Ortiz:
I don't really understand the criticism...

Forget it, Jake... it's Chinato - it's the TrekBBS.

 

[Sxottlan]

Posted by Emissary of the Prophets:
I think that a lot of people are being small minded about it.

How so?

 

[Sxottlan]

Posted by Bobatiel:
Looks bigger, better and clearer. Thanks so much!

How about the other views?

Here you go:

 

[Bobatiel]

^^^

Very, very nice!

 

[JD]

The more I see this ship the more I like it.

 

[Doctor Phlox]

Curious as to why you'd make such an assumption.

I pretty much assumed that since the ship was supposed to be Starfleet's newest vessel that the design would be more and more streamlined.

I think that a lot of people are being small minded about it.

So, if you don't like it you're small minded?

 

[Skywalker]

I think this ship looks beautiful from the front view.

What shape is the sensor pod supposed to be? I'm imagining that it's triangular, but I can't tell based on the images we see it in, and it's not included in the dorsal view.

Posted by Doctor Phlox:

Curious as to why you'd make such an assumption.

I pretty much assumed that since the ship was supposed to be Starfleet's newest vessel that the design would be more and more streamlined.

It really isn't Starfleet's "newest" design, though, to be technical. The Luna-class comes from the same design generation as the Sovereign, it was just put on hold during the Dominion War because it was a dedicated science vessel and Starfleet needed to focus on more combat-oriented designs at the time.

 

[Titan Designer]

Hey everyone,

I was asked if I could post my sketches leading up to the final design,
so here is the link: http://home.earthlink.net/~stourangeau/Titan.html

Enjoy.

Sean

 

[S. Gomez]

Posted by Randy1012:
What shape is the sensor pod supposed to be? I'm imagining that it's triangular, but I can't tell based on the images we see it in, and it's not included in the dorsal view

Yes it is. If you look closely, you'll see that it's a roughly rectangular shape, set on two swept-back supports on either side. The bow end of it is narrower, though.

 

[od0_ital]

Posted by Titan Designer:
Hey everyone,

I was asked if I could post my sketches leading up to the final design,
so here is the link: http://home.earthlink.net/~stourangeau/Titan.html

Enjoy.

Sean

Nice user ID. :thumbsup:

I'll have to take a look at the sketches when I get home, the computer here at work hates me.