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U.S.S. Pegasus and phase-shifting cloak

JesterFace

Fleet Captain
Commodore
Is there any explanation given, anywhere, how does this technology work? What is it based upon? I find it hard to watch this episode... they just fly through rock.
 
My guess (complete guess) is it might be based upon discovered technology, perhaps from a dead ancient species. Starfleet would seem to encounter alien technology on a regular basis, it would be ridiculous if they didn't try to incorporate this knowledge into their own.

:)
 
Perhaps they use a low-level static warp field to shift the physical matter into a layer of subspace?
 
Perhaps they use a low-level static warp field to shift the physical matter into a layer of subspace?

That would be my guess as well, although I might add that they likely readjusted the Heisenberg compensator to take into account the particle drift owed to the boson-mu inversion as predicted by the EPR quantum-bridge thought experiment, just to be on the safe side.
 
Would it be too "small universe" a solution if they just told a transporter to transport itself, hence "phasing" the whole thing?

Timo Saloniemi
 
Maybe it was based on something to Romulans cooked up previous to the Pegasus' mission; we clearly see that the Romulans have it figured out all by themselves in "The Next Phase." Shipboard accidents notwithstanding, the implication would seem to be that both powers (the Federation and the Romulan Star Empire) had been working on this particular technology for some time.
 
Would it be too "small universe" a solution if they just told a transporter to transport itself, hence "phasing" the whole thing?

Timo Saloniemi

As a matter of fact, future Borg on Voyager, the son of Seven and doc's portable emitter, had a transporter included, he could transport himself anywhere he wanted.
 
Would it be too "small universe" a solution if they just told a transporter to transport itself, hence "phasing" the whole thing?

Timo Saloniemi

As a matter of fact, future Borg on Voyager, the son of Seven and doc's portable emitter, had a transporter included, he could transport himself anywhere he wanted.

Wouldn't that just have been a site-to-site transporter? Akin to what we saw Data using in Nemesis (and which had been around for some time in the Trek universe previously)?
 
Would it be too "small universe" a solution if they just told a transporter to transport itself, hence "phasing" the whole thing?

Timo Saloniemi

As a matter of fact, future Borg on Voyager, the son of Seven and doc's portable emitter, had a transporter included, he could transport himself anywhere he wanted.

Wouldn't that just have been a site-to-site transporter? Akin to what we saw Data using in Nemesis (and which had been around for some time in the Trek universe previously)?

A definite NO on that one , as the transporter was INSIDE his body and as a matter of fact the transporter transported itself along with the Borg. That's quite a feat of technology!
 
So what?

How is that any different from the tiny device Data had? Data could easily have inserted the site-to-site transporter device (it's the size of a pin) inside his body. Better still, let's reference "Brothers," wherein Lore demonstrably has what could very well be a site-to-site transporter built into his fingernail.

Not quite so definite a "No" as you would have us believe, I think.
 
So what?

How is that any different from the tiny device Data had? Data could easily have inserted the site-to-site transporter device (it's the size of a pin) inside his body. Better still, let's reference "Brothers," wherein Lore demonstrably has what could very well be a site-to-site transporter built into his fingernail.

Not quite so definite a "No" as you would have us believe, I think.

You are WRONG!

It was in his thumbnail.

:)
 
Perhaps they use a low-level static warp field to shift the physical matter into a layer of subspace?

That would be my guess as well, although I might add that they likely readjusted the Heisenberg compensator to take into account the particle drift owed to the boson-mu inversion as predicted by the EPR quantum-bridge thought experiment, just to be on the safe side.

No, no, that's utterly ignoring what we know about the polaron cascading phase-transition bifurcation under nonlinear iso-entropic gauge symmetry.
 
So what?

How is that any different from the tiny device Data had? Data could easily have inserted the site-to-site transporter device (it's the size of a pin) inside his body. Better still, let's reference "Brothers," wherein Lore demonstrably has what could very well be a site-to-site transporter built into his fingernail.

Not quite so definite a "No" as you would have us believe, I think.

The Borg device is entirely self contained and doesn't need anything else.

Data's device is just a tag for the transporter to pick-up

There's a world of differences between the two.
 
"Polaron"? Now you're just making stuff up. ;)

They use Polaron emitting devices to try to force the alleged Gowron changeling into a liquid state, thus revealing his nature to all the Klingons present in the room. They didn't get a chance to use it though as they get caught by the Martok changeling. Plus Gowron wasn't even a changeling. The comedy of errors...
 
So what?

How is that any different from the tiny device Data had? Data could easily have inserted the site-to-site transporter device (it's the size of a pin) inside his body. Better still, let's reference "Brothers," wherein Lore demonstrably has what could very well be a site-to-site transporter built into his fingernail.

Not quite so definite a "No" as you would have us believe, I think.

The Borg device is entirely self contained and doesn't need anything else.

Data's device is just a tag for the transporter to pick-up


Oh, kinda like THE COMMBADGE HE WEARS ALL THE TIME?

Where was this ("just a tag") ever established in the film?
 
So what?

How is that any different from the tiny device Data had? Data could easily have inserted the site-to-site transporter device (it's the size of a pin) inside his body. Better still, let's reference "Brothers," wherein Lore demonstrably has what could very well be a site-to-site transporter built into his fingernail.

Not quite so definite a "No" as you would have us believe, I think.

The Borg device is entirely self contained and doesn't need anything else.

Data's device is just a tag for the transporter to pick-up


Oh, kinda like THE COMMBADGE HE WEARS ALL THE TIME?

Where was this ("just a tag") ever established in the film?
When they talk about the thing and his combadge evidently wasn't enough to get through the interference. Remember that particle thingy? The one that turned the Romulans into dust.
 
Perhaps they use a low-level static warp field to shift the physical matter into a layer of subspace?

That sounds relatively simple, considering that these people have had warp technology for over 300 years. But surely there are some complicating factors that make this incredibly tricky ?
 
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