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Typhon Pact

Thrawn said:
Is that the same publicity shot of Picard used on the cover of Losing The Peace?
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Kinda looks that way:

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They're just a little bit off, but I think that gets chalked up to the different manipulations.

(I'm sorry, Dayton, I know I just lengthened the "ZOMG TEH COVER IZ TEH LAME!1!" thread by about 100 posts. You're free to kick me in the sack next Shore Leave.)
 
Shar looks horrible. You can see the model's real hair under the terrible wig. The bangs are atrocious and the braids are unflatteringly stringy on the model's puffy face. The photoshopped uniform is out of proportion with the head and the antennae look penciled in and lack verisimilitude.

This is very disappointing after having my socks blown off by that first image of him used on the Gateways cover.

The bottom line is that I don't buy this as a "real" character. Unfortunately he's also next to the much gravitas-ed Jean-Luc Picard.

On the plus side, I love the look on the model's face. His seriousness and mystery...I can read Shar on there.

Andorians are bug-people, and that photoshopped skin...I can imagine almost feeling a different texture...smooth, plasticky...a cross between human flesh and insect chitin.
 
Arpy said:
Shar looks horrible. You can see the model's real hair under the terrible wig. The bangs are atrocious and the braids are unflatteringly stringy on the model's puffy face. The photoshopped uniform is out of proportion with the head and the antennae look penciled in and lack verisimilitude.
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Keep in mind that preliminary cover images sometimes get released before the final refinements are done. It's never wise to assume that something released months in advance is the final, definitive version.

Andorians are bug-people, and that photoshopped skin...I can imagine almost feeling a different texture...smooth, plasticky...a cross between human flesh and insect chitin.
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Outside of the odd fan publication, there's never been any suggestion that Andorians are "bug-people." Just having antennae doesn't make them insectoid. They're clearly mammalian. They're endoskeletal with soft skin, their females have breasts, and they carry and bear live young. They're just mammals that happen to have additional sensory appendages that we perceive as antennae.
 
^The "Worlds of the Federation" book did suggest that Andorians are an insectoid race, debunked by ST: Enterprise. I think a later edition suggested the Breen were a non-humanoid race with no skeletal structure or what we consider to be a circulatory system. One of my fan-fiction background essays irons out the oddities, mostly indicating that the antennae function in a manner similar to the ears of bats (while insect antennae function as olfactory receptors), which make sense considering the Aenar are blind by our standards.
 
Enterprise1981 said:
^The "Worlds of the Federation" book did suggest that Andorians are an insectoid race, debunked by ST: Enterprise.
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Actually that suggestion had appeared earlier in the Starfleet Medical Reference Manual. WotF was presumably building on that.


I think a later edition suggested the Breen were a non-humanoid race with no skeletal structure or what we consider to be a circulatory system.
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I'm not aware of any later edition of WotF.
 
Christopher said:
Andorians are bug-people, and that photoshopped skin...I can imagine almost feeling a different texture...smooth, plasticky...a cross between human flesh and insect chitin. Outside of the odd fan publication, there's never been any suggestion that Andorians are "bug-people." Just having antennae doesn't make them insectoid. They're clearly mammalian. They're endoskeletal with soft skin, their females have breasts, and they carry and bear live young. They're just mammals that happen to have additional sensory appendages that we perceive as antennae.
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They're bug-people like Tellarites are pig-people and Cardassians are lizard-people: not bug-people to the extent of the Xindi insectoids (produced with a bigger budget and better tech) but that's the impression given by the antennae and the original Andorian hair - combed to suggest exoskeletal plates.

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't want them to sprout another two arms and giant compound eyes. Part of what's great about them is that they aren't, inanely, just bugs in humanoid form. They're a strange and exotic in-between species, sophisticated and evolving down another path.
 
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Count me among those disappointed with the Paths of Disharmony cover.

Honestly (and sadly) after the really cool Zero Sum Game cover, the Typhon Pact covers have gotten more and more "bleh" to me.

ETA: That said, I have no doubt these will be excellent novels. :techman:
 
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Kestrel said:
Count me among those disappointed with the Paths of Disharmony cover.

Honestly (and sadly) after the really cool Zero Sum Game cover, the Typhon Pact covers have gotten more and more "bleh" to me.
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But the Zero Sum Game cover is just as lame as the others?
 
I like all the covers, usually the only thing I would pick on is if I can't read the font on it. (and that is rare) Either way I am looking forward to reading all the books.
 
Bashir's beard is cool, it gives the impression time's marching on and these people have moved on with their lives.

It'd be cool to see what they'd do with a Star Trek Online-era novel cover featuring known TV/film characters in the 2410's (other than reusing Old Janeway from "Endgame" and Tony Todd's Jake Sisko).
 
JarodRussell said:
Kestrel said:
Count me among those disappointed with the Paths of Disharmony cover.

Honestly (and sadly) after the really cool Zero Sum Game cover, the Typhon Pact covers have gotten more and more "bleh" to me.
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But the Zero Sum Game cover is just as lame as the others?
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There's something about the Zero Sum Game cover that makes it more than the sum of it's parts and pretty cool, the TNG and DS9 ones seem to be lacking that.
 
MNM said:
JarodRussell said:
Kestrel said:
Count me among those disappointed with the Paths of Disharmony cover.

Honestly (and sadly) after the really cool Zero Sum Game cover, the Typhon Pact covers have gotten more and more "bleh" to me.
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But the Zero Sum Game cover is just as lame as the others?
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There's something about the Zero Sum Game cover that makes it more than the sum of it's parts and pretty cool, the TNG and DS9 ones seem to be lacking that.
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Pretty much yeah. I find the color scheme appealing and the elements seem to fit together better. Also, the shots of Bashir and Dax just look better, IMO.
 
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