Two Different Types Of Starfleet Uniforms?

[Timo]

Yet the Enterprise crew in ST:GEN didn't make a "transition", it swayed back and forth. And DS9 became a center of action and attention after the first few episodes already, yet never received the new style even though dozens of ships sporting that style must have visited the station. Similarly, Sisko donned the TNG style when he visited Earth, then switched back to the DS9 style when getting home; it doesn't sound likely that Earth would be the last place to adopt a new style of uniforms!

And the uniforms are probably replicated anyway, meaning they would only arrive as late as the slowest possible subspace message - delayed perhaps a few weeks, not a few months let alone years.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[NIUPonyBoy]

There is still plenty of bureaucracy in the Fed.

 

[USS Triumphant]

There is still plenty of bureaucracy in the Fed.

Yes. And maybe some of the appearances of certain uniforms constituted field testing? Not being a completely Federation-controlled station anyway, DS9 may have been used this way extensively. For all we know, Sisko and crew were regularly having to fill out forms with things like "From 1 to 5, with 1 being Least Acceptable and 5 being Most Acceptable, please rate the following attributes of your current Starfleet issued uniform:" printed across the top.

 

[votd]

I always wondered what the Voyager crew would look like in TNG uniforms. I've tried photohop myself but I can't seem to get it looking right especially when trying to colour the black part and blacken the coloured part.

I think they wore the dress uniforms, I seem to remember them wearing them in the final scenes from One Small Step (I think that's the name of the ep; the one with the Mars ship trapped in a subspace storm)

 

[Ethros]

Uniforms are replicated. Even ships far out could replicate new uniforms from the materials of the old uniforms.

Which is why I always wanted to see the VOY crew start wearing the FC uniforms for late Season 6/Season 7. If they're gonna be representing Starfleet and the UFP in the Delta Quadrant they should at least look the part.
But alas,

And don't give me that bullshit of "oh let's not waste energy replicating new outfits" when they leave the crappola Fair Haven program running 24/7 etc

 

[Alidar Jarok]

I think this actually would have been a better uniform for the movies:

http://www.st-spike.org/images/uniforms/noncanon/uniforms_1.gif

Word of advice. If you post an image and it comes up with "Access Denied" it means you don't have permission to post it. In fact, they set up a specific thing to prevent hotlinking.

Once again (to everyone), if you don't own the image or have permission to post it directly from their site, upload it yourself or leave it as a link.

 

[SchwEnt]

I liked to think that TNG uniforms were for "ship" duty, while the DS9 uniforms were for "shore" duty. But then the uniforms started getting flipped around, and VOY came along, and then that idea didn't really hold up. Oh well.

 

[Ensign_Redshirt]

Possible (somewhat real-world inspired) explanation:

Originally, there was only the "Type A" uniform. Then sometime around 2368/69 Starfleet decided to introduce a uniform variation for the crews of deep space stations.

Perhaps this new uniform variation proved so popular (maybe it's more comfortable or at least more practical to wear?) that starship crews were also allowed to wear them by 2371. The new uniforms then started to gradually replace the old ones. The crews of newly comissioned starship (like Voyager) even wore them from the start.

In 2373, Starfleet decided to replace both uniforms with a new one which combined the best of both variations.

 

[Deckerd]

Personally I liked seeing the Bridge crew in Generations in the the 18th Century US Navy officers uniforms on the bridge of the refit Ent-D.

Allow me to strongly second this.

Goes to show that the 'Federation' is really the USA. No wonder the films aren't as popular in the rest of the world.

 

[diankra]

And the uniforms are probably replicated anyway, meaning they would only arrive as late as the slowest possible subspace message - delayed perhaps a few weeks, not a few months let alone years.

Timo Saloniemi

Entirely sensible though that is, there's also the evidence of TNG seson three (where the transition from the season 1/2 jumpsuits to the new two-piece and collar uniforms takes the best part of a year on some extras) to argue against it. Old uniforms seem to stick around until worn out if you're low ranked...

 

[USS Triumphant]

Goes to show that the 'Federation' is really the USA. No wonder the films aren't as popular in the rest of the world.

Yes. And the Federation is a Humans-only club, too - present company excluded, of course.

Personally, I wouldn't have cared if they had been French, British, or Spanish uniforms - the neat-looking anachronism was the thing, for me.

 

[Zulu Romeo]

I was watching the Voyager episode "Pathfinder" recently, and interestingly the older 2367-era TNG uniforms are still in use on Earth among Starfleet officers at the time of that episode (2376 I think) - one of the establishing shots of the Starfleet HQ area shows two officers in the garden, still in the older uniforms. (Yes, I realise they lifted that shot from DS9's "Homefront" wholesale and without alterations... )

 

[J.T.B.]

Personally, I wouldn't have cared if they had been French, British, or Spanish uniforms - the neat-looking anachronism was the thing, for me.

I always thought it would have been cooler if, instead of dressing all the same, they had actually worn position-appropriate uniforms for the setting: Picard as captain, of course, Riker and Data as lieutenants, LaForge as master, Crusher and Troi as surgeons. Only a few strange people like me would have noticed, of course...

--Justin

 

[Elder Knight]

I think this actually would have been a better uniform for the movies:

http://www.st-spike.org/images/uniforms/noncanon/uniforms_1.gif

Cool! Thay "ACCESS DENIED" is really badass!

 

[hellsgate]

I loved the "First Contact" & Type B uniforms. I hated the early TNG ones.

 

[Red Ranger]

I never cared for the first DSN uniforms, and because they were worn on both DSN and VOY, it means that uniform was shown and worn the most of any of the other uniforms, 12 seasons, I think (5 on DSN, 7 on VOY)! My fave 24th century uniforms were always the TNG ones from season 3 to 7, followed by the later TNG movie outfits, used on DSN in its last 2 seasons. -- RR

 

[Sci]

My favorite uniforms are the First Contact uniforms, followed closely by the TWOK uniforms.

 

[Orcus]

My favorite uniforms are the First Contact uniforms, followed closely by the TWOK uniforms.

My faves are, and have always been, the TOS unis.

I also really like the ones from "The Cage"...