Spoilers Two big characters return for anniversary.

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  1. Redfern

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    Or, imagine the social media reactions when DW went to color and the narratives primarily earthbound. Yeah, some fans would have complained hoe color destroyed the "noir" type atmosphere of the 60s episodes.

    Shoot, let's transplant social media even earlier. Imagine the outrage when Hartnell "renewed" into Troughton!

    Aww, just for shiggles, let's push online discussion tools even further into the past, say to November 30th, 1963, when the second episode aired, "The Cave of Skulls". About what the bold and the brash might have complained, I'm not sure, but I'm certain they would have felt "betrayed" by the perceived promises of "An Unearthly Child".
     
  2. jaime

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    I just really don’t like the Timeless Child retcon, not least as it’s disrespectful to his predecessors. Aside from that, he’s just a poor writer who squandered opportunities, and doesn’t really grasp basic tenets of story and character.
    Hyperbole? Nah.
     
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  3. Emperor-Tiberius

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    To be fair, that first season basically totally sucks. The Visitation is an empty Robert Holmes pastiche, Earthshock s sorta good and Kinda is an accidental masterpiece. But beyond that, not a lot to brag about.

    Which is more than I can say about any of Chibnall's three years, which on the whole have been interminably boring, except when they were excruciatingly annoying and insulting.

    I'm excited about what's coming next, so I'm not as bitter as I had been even a couple of months ago. But dang it if I don't believe that Chibnall's the worst showrunner is the show's history.
     
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  4. jaime

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    I tend to keep comparing him in my head to Eric Saward, which is ironic when you think about it. Good intentions followed by a sort of weird ‘I would rather be doing something else’ which shows in their work, with half baked ideas sort of burbling along underneath which seem to have just been thrown in just for the sake of it in the moment. (The Dalek Civil War sub-plot took Cartmel and Aaronovitch to fix, and the Daleks Attack Gallifrey didn’t come to fruition until RTD) Not to mention the similarities between ‘Flux’ and ‘Trial of a Timelord’.
    On balance, Saward was much better than Chibnall though.
     
  5. Marc

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    Even Peter Davison has said he wasn't happy with his first season and had it been more like his 2nd and 3rd he would have stayed longer.
     
  6. jaime

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    It was Pat Troughton who advised him to do three and then go, and by the time he was thinking he would have liked to do more, Colin was already on the annual cover.
     
  7. StCoop

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    I see Peter Capaldi has just started shooting a series for Apple TV (and has a Thinker series in the works with James Gunn too.)

    Not really a shocker as anytime he's been asked about it in interviews he's always said that he wasn't interested in coming back.

    So looking like it'll just be Tennant and Smith at most (or just Tennant). Maybe Sony could cough up some cash for a CGI John Hurt?
     
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  8. The Scrooge Doctor

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    No.
     
  9. StCoop

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    You're right. It would be cheaper to dig him up and just work him like a puppet. Get the guy who does him for Big Finish to do the voice.
     
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  10. Samurai8472

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    BBC Entertainment New- RTD has taken new Doctor Who series to new heights. Reviving the dead.

    RTD- They might need to eat flesh and 8 hours of deep icing in a truck but people will be excited to see old faces!

    John Hurt- RIPLEY!!!!

    RTD- Sometimes you have to remind them where they are.
     
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    Hard no to CGI'ing any dead actor. If Badwolf want to pay good money to de-age Davison or another actor on the other hand, well that's a different matter.
     
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  12. jaime

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    They’ve already CGIed past doctors. Those animated Lost Episodes weren’t hand drawn…

    In all seriousness, it can be done tastefully and even well, so I would leave it up to the families and production team. I have one particular bone with it’s use in Who, as all the Actors sadly passed were well known for their own love and commitment to the show. Pat Troughton manned the phones in the eighties, and Pertwee was not only acting in the only new BBC produced Who in the nineties, but helped get it made.
     
  13. matthunter

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    Sadly, I attended the performance of Doctor Who: The Ultimate Adventure on the very night Pertwee fell ill and had to have David Banks understudy for him.

    Thankfully, Banks was superb (sadly, most of Who only knows him as the Cyber-Leader). Even when he forgot his lines:

    "I simply cannot tell you what that stupid Dalek has done! I just can't tell you! I can't!" (making it obvious to the other actors - and the audience - that he can't remember the line)

    "It hasn't interfered with the neutron flow in the temporal capacitors, has it?" (note, I'm making this line up as I can't remember the exact technobabble either!)

    "That is PRECISELY what it has done!"
     
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  14. jaime

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    I read his Cybermen book over and over as a kid.
     
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    Helped write it, got a thanks in the credits. David didn't know about the Silurians till I told him over a pint, then he ran with the idea of the Silurian catastrophe and the expulsion of Mondas being related.
     
  16. diankra

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    Until then he was toying with the idea of "There were giants in the Earth..." Silurians took that role.
     
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  17. Samurai8472

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    RUMOR


    Ncuti Gatwa has been reportedly glimpsed filming scenes with Tennant and Tate, along with someone in a wheelchair and a woman who may be Bonnie Langford. The wheelchair bound companion is speculated to be Ruth Madeley

    The following lines were spoken in the 20 seconds of footage the source of the info watched

    Ncuti is dressed only in a shirt, trainers, no trousers (!) and carrying an oversize mallet (that he hits one of the Tardis's with)m yes, there are two TARDISES

    Ncuti: Hey! Watch this, watch this....stand back, stand back...
    Ncuti: (something)
    David: What for?
    Ncuti: We won the game! You get a prize, honey! And this...(raises mallet over shoulder)...is MINE!
    (swings mallet and hits Tardis)
     
  18. StCoop

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    All proved to be a fake hours ago. The fact that they were passing off an artificially blurred photo of Bernard Cribbins and Catherine Tate as being Ruth Madeley and Bonnie Langford was a big clue.
     
  19. The Scrooge Doctor

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    Which is a pity because I would love to see Ruth Madeley on Doctor Who.
     
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  20. The Scrooge Doctor

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    Well, this is a curious coincidence: Big Finish just announced that Ruth Madeley is the newest Sixth Doctor companion as Hebe...alongside Bonnie's Mel.

    I guess that's were the rumor originated and then someone decided to do some photoshopping.

    Edit: Oh, I see Madeley already appeared as Hebe just last month. Goes to show how far behind I am with my Big Finish listening. :lol: