Tuvok cut from special edition ST6?

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies I-X' started by misskim86, Nov 26, 2007.

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  1. Chris3123

    Chris3123 Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Sorry, I'm with Therin on this.

    If that is actually what he said, then it could easily have been a mistake on his part, saying A instead of B.

    Nope. I just checked. There is a black guy in a cadet uniform on the bridge, but once you see his face it's obvious he's not Tim Russ.

    The redirecting to the main page was deliberate. TrekCore doesn't allow direct links to their pics.
     
  2. Timo

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    I don't see much similarity, either. Shouldn't Russ be taller?

    However, this is the only black male Starfleet extra in the movie, there being one brownish woman on the Excelsior bridge.

    Personally, I think Tim Russ just got his Enterprise suffixes confused in that interview, and was speaking of ST:Generations all the time.

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    Wow. When did THAT happen?

    Timo Saloniemi
     
  3. misskim86

    misskim86 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    omg I just watched my VHS copy and now he DIDN'T serve the tea, I'm going nuts.

    I could have sworn I saw him before and not the voyager version
     
  4. Opus

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    And considetring one of the characters killed off in the Voyager episode WASN'T DEAD at the end of ST VI makes the writers also stark raving mad...
     
  5. Indysolo

    Indysolo Commodore Commodore

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    They must have referenced a pan-and-scan copy of Trek VI while writing that episode. :)

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  6. Crewman47

    Crewman47 Commodore Newbie

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    The guy in those pics is not Tuvok, as others have said but, he is the guy who plays the recurring extra Crewman Ashmore on Voyager and has showed up on other Trek shows namely Generations as an Enterprise-B crewman, and I think again on the Enterprise-D and he might have showed up in the later seasons of TNG and DS9 although I'm not 100% positive about that.
     
  7. Timo

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    Yeah... I wasn't really making a statement but rather asking a question, as the OP seemed to point to this very character as his Tuvok.

    I'm curious about the TrekCore hotlinking policy, though. I've never had any problem with linking to their pictures, and the links in this thread still work perfectly well for me as well. Has there been some sort of a change or not?

    Timo Saloniemi
     
  8. David cgc

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    Seems that linking to the page the screencap is on is fine, but linking to the actual image itself is not.
     
  9. TMara

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    Well, I am absolutely, 100% certain that Tim Russ was in "Generations", as a speaking, yet nameless background bridge officer on the Enterprise B (Harriman's crew), but never was in TUC.
    And even in "Generations" he was not playing Tuvok, he had his normal human ears, no pointed Vulcan ones.

    Also, if he had been in TUC, as a member of Sulu's crew,... the ship would have been the Excelsior, not the Enterprise A.

    Maria
     
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  10. Manticore

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    I usually just squint and pretend that he has pointy ears. ;)
     
  11. Timo

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    That's curious... What's the practical difference?
    Link to the page address

    This is simply an URL shunt to the page address that can be seen above the individual picture. It seems to work just fine today, whereas the original links worked perfectly well for me for two days and then suddenly began rerouting to the main page today.
    [​IMG]

    This one has been linked using the Image function of the BBS. I can see it just fine for the time being.

    On a philosophical level, what is the point of a picture site that doesn't allow hotlinking? It's like a library where the customers are accused of theft when they walk out with the books...

    Timo Saloniemi
     
  12. Smiley

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    The point is that if hotlinking were allowed, then the bandwidth charges would be prohibitive. A link to the site and picture number are all people need.
     
  13. Kryton

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    They very likely show for YOU because they are almost certainly stored in your browser's cache from having viewed them in the first place. Any of us who haven't been to the site you're linking to can't see the pics directly.
     
  14. David cgc

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    It seems TrekCore has changed their album format. They used to have an HTML page where the image was displayed, along with various and sundry other things, but now it seems that they go straight from the index pages to the jpeg itself. Which makes linking to an individual image impossible.
     
  15. Timo

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    Right, seems so. Too bad that referring to an individual image is really cumbersome, too, there being no index numbers visible.

    Still, the idea of a picture site that can't afford its bandwidth sounds... Well, not too useful. (But who actually "uses" vast picture sites for reference purposes, apart from us Trekkies? Most will probably primarily wish to collect pictures to their own storage media.)

    Timo Saloniemi
     
  16. Delta1

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    Count yourself lucky if TrekCore only sends 404s to hotlinkers. Some websites creatively rewrite image requests with outside referrers, and send ... "interesting" images instead of the expected picture.
     
  17. FrontierTrek

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    We've recently had to redesign our screencap galleries as they were using WAY too many server resources. As a result, gallery links now go straight to the image files to cut down unnecessary database processing.

    Regarding our hotlinking policy. It's slightly naive of you to think that all the people who want to hotlink to our files have the same honorable intentions as you do.

    We've had repeated instances of sites hotlinking to thousands of files, not just images, using massive bandwidth and sometimes even passing the stuff off as their own. Given the sheer size of our archive now, I'm sure you can see how that would have had the potential to cripple our server had we not taken preventative measures. It was basically that or take the site offline.

    I'd also refer to the TrekBBS rules:

    That being said, this site, unlike others, has never been guilty of using up inordinate amount of our bandwidth through this practice, and to that end, I have placed a hotlinking "amnesty" on the TrekBBS.

    YOU MAY include inline links (hotlinks) to the screencaps on our server providing they are credited as originating from TrekCore.

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  18. Jamee999

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    On another forum I frequent someone hotlinked to an (innocent) picture on a site that did this.

    Got banned for posting gay porn...
     
  19. cultcross

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    That's very gracious of you, FrontierTrek, thank you.
     
  20. DumbDumb2007

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    Tim russ was never in ST6. the yput him in as an afterthought since Voyage was only thought of at least publicly until late 1993.
    I recall watching William shatner on Larry King on CNN talking about it. I recall the Star Trek special that aired in January 1995 with him sitting in a Captain's Chair on a set.
    It introduced Voyager and discussed Star Trek...
     
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