Spoilers TTN: Fortune Of War by David Mack Review Thread

Discussion in 'Trek Literature' started by tomswift2002, Nov 21, 2017.

?

Rate Fortune of War

  1. Outstanding

    8 vote(s)
    42.1%
  2. Above Average

    11 vote(s)
    57.9%
  3. Average

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Below Average

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Poor

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. The Wormhole

    The Wormhole Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2001
    Everyone
     
  2. T'Bonz

    T'Bonz Romulan Curmudgeon Administrator

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2000
    Location:
    Across the Neutral Zone
    Finally had time to get this. Was vastly amused at the various factions playing "I got it!" Blam! "No, now I got it!" Blam! "Sorry, it's mine now!"
     
    T'Ressa Dax likes this.
  3. David Mack

    David Mack Writer Commodore

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2003
    Location:
    New York, NY
    I guess you could tell that I grew up watching Looney Tunes on Saturday mornings. :-)
     
  4. T'Bonz

    T'Bonz Romulan Curmudgeon Administrator

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2000
    Location:
    Across the Neutral Zone
    So did I. Probably why I got such a kick out of it then.
     
  5. Markonian

    Markonian Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2012
    Location:
    Yorkshire, UK
    Finished it today after taking a bit of a break - losing all those Starfleet ships was harsh.
    Enjoyed the ride!
    Probably won’t see another TTN adventure until 2019, I’d guess.
     
  6. David cgc

    David cgc Vice Admiral Premium Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2002
    Location:
    California
    The comedy of errors with the different factions chasing down the Husnock artifacts reminded me of Justified around season 3 or 4, when there would be revolving doors of major and minor criminals all going after the same jackpot.
     
  7. hbquikcomjamesl

    hbquikcomjamesl Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2006
    Location:
    Orange County, CA
    Perhaps a more concise answer could be found for the question,
    "Who isn't after the Husnock technology?"

    Presumably the Organians, the Metrons, and the Douwd, to name three.

    And I'm quite capable of skipping over any posts that appear to contain open spoilers, given the warning flag for the thread, even if it is my choice to spoler-tag any major spoilers I post, even if it's in a spoiler-tagged thread about a decade-old book. (As TV chef Graham Kerr was wont to say about using reverse-osmosis-dealcoholized wine in his final [to date] TV series, it is my choice, and I respect everybody else's choice.)
     
  8. Reanok

    Reanok Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2002
    I've been Reading this book and like it alot. I really enjoyed listening to Trek.m interviewing David Mack on Literary Treks it was a really good interview and I hope someday MR.Mack will write another trek novel someday.
     
  9. RuthlessNate

    RuthlessNate Lieutenant Red Shirt

    Joined:
    May 21, 2009
    Location:
    Oklahoma City
    Just finished this one last night. Weird to think that, beyond Architects of Infinity, it'll be the last look we have at the 24th century (within the novels' continuity) for the foreseeable future.

    As usual, David Mack gave us a fun and compelling Trek story. I was especially fond of the scenes from the Pakled's point of view. I imagine it was a challenging writing exercise to balance their apparent dimwittedness while conveying that maybe they're not as dumb as they seem on the surface.
     
  10. Burning Hearts of Qo'nOs

    Burning Hearts of Qo'nOs Captain Captain

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2017
    Location:
    Irvine, CA
    Just finished it and I and I couldn't be more pleased! It's no secret that David Mack has some of the best action and engaging plots and this one sure didn't disappoint. Loved all the callbacks to TNG races celebrating one of my favorite random episodes of the series as well. But most of all, that ending! I love how I went from hating Sarai in her previous appearances in other books to questioning her motives to sympathizing with her misfortunes all the way to just plain loving the hell out of her by the end of this book. And the payoff on the last page was so, so satisfying. One of the best things to any good Star Trek is teamwork, compassion, and loyalty among its crew. Sarai just got upgraded from spy to family.

    I am pained to know that we won't be seeing these characters or a continuation/conclusion to this story thread for quite some time (for crap's sake, maybe EVER) but I sure hope it's sooner than later.
     
    Markonian likes this.
  11. flandry84

    flandry84 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2007
    Location:
    Sunshine cottage,Lollipop lane,Latveria
    After DS9 Titan would be my favorite iteration of the Trek universe.I really enjoyed this book especially the various gangs of alien scuzzballs chasing the Husnock hoard.
    Riker though is unfortunately noticeable by his absence during much of the battle scenes,in a series whose main selling point was the further adventures of Captain Riker,removing him from actual command to an overall administrative role is probably a mistake.
    Sarai proved to be another great character it will be interesting to see where her story goes.

    And does anyone agree that perhaps Federation vessels could do with a detachment of Starfleet commandos of their own?
     
  12. David cgc

    David cgc Vice Admiral Premium Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2002
    Location:
    California
    Can— that is, continuit-ize the Hazard Team! Just the first game, don't worry about the sequel (though it might make a little more sense with the novelverse if you put it on the Titan instead of the -E. Might be an interesting mod, if anybody knows someone who sounds like Jonathan Frakes to replace Picard's lines).
     
  13. flandry84

    flandry84 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2007
    Location:
    Sunshine cottage,Lollipop lane,Latveria
    I don’t know anything about Trek online I’m afraid.

    But in a Trek universe that seems to be getting darker and more dangerous all the time I would feel better having someone more capable than the glass-jawed brigade of Starfleet security at my back.:bolian:
     
  14. Reanok

    Reanok Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2002
    I finished reading this book I really liked the story being a follow up to a TNG tv episode. It was really good I hope there will be another Titan book someday.
     
  15. hbquikcomjamesl

    hbquikcomjamesl Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2006
    Location:
    Orange County, CA
    Hmm. I couldn't leave the final chapters alone last night, even though it cost me some sleep.

    Didn't we have another ST novel, a few years ago, in which everybody and his tribble were climbing over each other to get some new overwhelming technology?

    Loved the ending, . . .
    . . . with the "pull-back" to reveal Riker and Vale listening on on Sarai's report.

    One thing that bugged me about the whole premise was . . .
    . . . the matter of Uxbridge wiping out the whole Husnock species, but leaving all their technology sitting around, waiting to be discovered (and then doing nothing to correct that oversight). He struck me as being overcome with shame and remorse, not with stupidity.

    Also liked the glimpse into Husnock society.
     
  16. T'Bonz

    T'Bonz Romulan Curmudgeon Administrator

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2000
    Location:
    Across the Neutral Zone
    Yeah, but Uxbridge wasn't reacting logically, he acted out of anger/grief. He probably never thought about that part of wiping out the Husnock.
     
  17. Burning Hearts of Qo'nOs

    Burning Hearts of Qo'nOs Captain Captain

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2017
    Location:
    Irvine, CA
    I don't think it was so much stupidity as it was his instant guilt for what he did. After going to the trouble of bursting them into screaming flames, destroying every bit of their civilization afterwards seems like it would have just been adding insult to injury. We see him regret his actions when Picard speaks with him about it, so perhaps after he wiped them out, going so far as to erasing all that they built was too far. At least with their ruins left behind, people could at least study them and they would still be alive as part of history as opposed to no one ever knowing they existed. He wasn't worried about wiping out the danger that the Husnock society posed, but rather killing them in an instant fit of rage.

    In a way, after he killed all the villagers he couldn't go through with burning down the village and then salting the earth.
     
    Last edited: Dec 27, 2017
    Markonian likes this.
  18. hbquikcomjamesl

    hbquikcomjamesl Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2006
    Location:
    Orange County, CA
    I'd always read (so to speak) his confession in the episode as a confession of having wiped the Husnock from the memory of the universe.

    But my own interpretation is clearly not the only valid one. Or even necessarily the most valid one. Some might not even consider it to be a valid one.
     
  19. flandry84

    flandry84 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2007
    Location:
    Sunshine cottage,Lollipop lane,Latveria
    /\Hey man,relax.
    Everything on here is interpretation.:bolian:
     
    hbquikcomjamesl likes this.
  20. hbquikcomjamesl

    hbquikcomjamesl Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2006
    Location:
    Orange County, CA
    My point exactly. And I wasn't uptight about it (certainly not the way I've been uptight about other things, and certainly not the way I am uptight -- and damn proud of it -- about the "autobiographies").