Trying to make sense of the timeline
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Kilana2 promised me that line!
We're just trying to blend in...
Can not run out of time, there is infinite time. You are finite, Zathras is finite. This is wrong tool. No. No. Not good. No. No. Never use this.
Time...line?? Time is not made out of lines! It is made out of circles. That is why clocks are round!
^ No, time is flowing like a river. To the sea...
When did I do that? It was Troi if I´m not mistaken.
Tequila can´t be a factor, because I drank beer...
Now I know it: it wasn´t me, it was my alter ego from one of the myriad universes.
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And what's this "pi-r-squared" BS? Everybody knows pie are round!
This is maybe my favorite line delivery of all time.
People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect but, actually, from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly... timey-wimey... stuff.
Oh, come on, someone had to do it.
Well if I could *save* time in a bottle, the first thing that I'd like to do...
Originally STO and the novels were not very divergent at all, to an extent in fact, STO was arguably based on and extrapolated from the novels (we see commonalities like the Riker and Picard families, and later the Aventine). It diverges sort of half way through Destiny, and fiddles only a few dates and events....the big thing being that STO needed the Borg, and didn't need half of federation space totalled. After that things get more parallel with things, until it starts rethinking itself a little bit and you get their new explanations for things like bluegill very recently indeed.
Apparently, the STO people were responsible for preventing JJTrek from nuking the whole prime galaxy with the Hobus supernova.
Apparently, the STO people were responsible for preventing JJTrek from nuking the whole prime galaxy with the Hobus supernova.
There are major differences before Destiny, though. STO's timeline pretty much disregards the DS9 Relaunch, or has its events (like Ro's pardon or Bajor's Federation membership) take place years or decades later. There are also fundamental differences in the portrayal of species like the Iconians and Species 8472. Those aren't things that would've changed in 2381, they're things that would've been different since those species first evolved millions of years ago.
^Thank you Christopher. 
Y'know, on that subject, I just thought of something else that would completely bar STO and the novelverse from taking place in the same multiverse. Q Junior is alive in STO, and unless you're going to say he intervened in 2409 before he became involved in the events of the VOY relaunch in 2381, then STO and the novelverse couldn't be in the same multiverse because the Q are multiversal singularities. Q can't be dead and alive in the same multiverse.
Y'know, on that subject, I just thought of something else that would completely bar STO and the novelverse from taking place in the same multiverse. Q Junior is alive in STO, and unless you're going to say he intervened in 2409 before he became involved in the events of the VOY relaunch in 2381, then STO and the novelverse couldn't be in the same multiverse because the Q are multiversal singularities. Q can't be dead and alive in the same multiverse.
^But can a Q create an object so heavy he can't lift it?
But those are differences that come later, on th part of both novels and STO. STO as it was about....4 years ago was much much closer to the novel continuity. And the novel continuity was also much closer to STO....little q hadn't done his messiah shtick yet, data was still dead, so STOs short story collection was the only licensed source dealing with his resurrection in time for the countdown comics.
A few dates were different, but novel continuity characters hand around STOs starbases to this day.
Later on, all three licensed continuities further distance themselves from each other (later on from the point of view of publication) but around the time of release, with the 'return' of the Borg being nebulous, and Kira being Kai, the STOverse and novelverse were instep about a much as say.....the visitor/all good things/endgame continuities were with the rest of their series.
The comics did that awful hive thing to distinguish their line. (Picard didn't Beverly! The Borg win! After mutilating, and then killing seven of nine by not be for he nude scene with Picard!)
STO at very least tips it's hat to the older cross media continuity, and definitely acknowledges it....given the timely shenanigans at the moment, it's not impossible it may end up totally in line with the novels or as near as, as it was at its inception. (We still haven't seen an iconian in game by the way....as as they are now explicitly linked to the preservers, a more human appearance is likely)