It's unfortunate when effects that are old and outdated are enough to turn people off from movies.
Ain't that the truth. Great sadness.....
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Ain't that the truth. Great sadness.....
Great!
Who do I talk to about getting a refund for Atlantis?
On the bright side, just think about how the SW prequels will look to people in 10-20 years!It's unfortunate when effects that are old and outdated are enough to turn people off from movies.
I don't know why the dated effects would turn people off from the film. I guess you have to see it in the context of the era, being the first film to utilize CGI (though most sequences were matte paintings).
For me, the film is beautifully made. I don't care if it looks dated, I can't help but be moved by the gorgeous vistas and sweeping architecture in the world of Tron. Even the music is awesome!
But then, I love retro-80's effects. I think everything needs a logo made to resemble chrome with lazer effects added!
It's unfortunate when effects that are old and outdated are enough to turn people off from movies.
I have no problem with outdated effects as long as the story and characters are engaging enough.
It's unfortunate when effects that are old and outdated are enough to turn people off from movies.
I have no problem with outdated effects as long as the story and characters are engaging enough.
...Ah. Oh well!
Seriously though, it's one of those films that you'd probably have to have seen it as a kid to fully appreciate...and by fully appreciate I mean have a blind nostalgic affection for what is in all honestly a very oddly plotted film.
Either way it's defiantly worth a look as there's simply nothing else like it before or since (except for this sequel, obviously) and for it's time it was exceedingly imaginative, ambitious and completely mould breaking. Plus it has David Warner hamming it up as not one, but two baddies, which alone is worth the rental fee.
Agreed. I've been really impressed with the trailers so far, and I like how the effects are very modern but also very much in keeping with the original's styling. It reminds me a bit of how much I enjoy the visual look of Peter Jackson's LOTR movies, and how well I think they captured that aspect. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Legacy will kick butt and make money.
I haven't seen Tron since I saw it when it first came out. I'm looking forward to the long awaited sequel. I must confess that I was addicted to the video game for quite awhile.
I think I read somewhare that "Tron Legacy" sets a new record, because never before has a timespan of 28 years passed between a movie and its direct sequel. Is this true?
Hell, I was born in 1982. And despite this, the sequel reunites two of the original cast members...
Hell, I was born in 1982. And despite this, the sequel reunites two of the original cast members...
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Just saw the trailer...awesome.
There are some legit spoilers for the shooting script floating around on several script review sites. I don't want to tempt people with spoiler tags, so you can find them if you really want with a Google search.
I can say this tho. When I first read about the scriptment, the final one, not the earlier revisions before Lisberger was fully onboard, I was excited. That is because, going just by the scriptment, it was a story with a real idea in its head. The clue is in the title: Legacy. See, the events of the original Tron should, in reality, have changed the world. Teleporting lasers that reveal a parallel dimension inside the electromagnetic field of computational devices? There's more hints of the story in the new trailer, but - suffice to say if half of what is in the scriptment survives to the screen, the movie is not stupid. Flynn disappears with his secrets when he has to in order for the present of Tron Legacy's reality to not be a totally different world from our own.
The script ideas also have massive implications for where the story could go and the nature of the Electronic World, and what that might mean for the real world. For example, something I can say because it's in the new trailer:
Notice that Clu 2.0 /knows/ who Sam Flynn is, knows that Flynn is his father, and even understands concepts such as human (User) reproduction and family structure? Unlike the first film, where the programs remained unaware of the nature of reality outside their domain, the programs in Legacy are capable of understanding the external world. What does this mean for the external world, should... well, ha ha, you'll see.
What I found neat about it is that it took what was basically very avant gard science fiction, that was surrealistic and placed idea before literality (a little world inside your computer?), and brought it up into what is really a formidable cyberpunk story by /any/ standards. The brief scenes in the trailer give me hope that much has survived intact from page to film. One other hopeful aspect is that from everything I've read, Lisberger essentially told Disney "Look, Tron was a weird, strange, experimental film that reached out to the audience in unexpected ways. We cannot make a sequel that's a typical 2010 popcorn flick. It won't work. It won't be accepted as Tron."
A lot of people are cynical about Legacy because it does bring the eye-candy and the neon-tinged Baysplosions, but remember, Tron was also about eyecandy in its day. With a little luck, the movie will prove that it is using its spectacle in the right way, which is to create a landscape of mystery and scale, like the original did, and sell the audience on the bizarre reality of its Electronic World (which the original did as well).
I can say this tho. When I first read about the scriptment, the final one, not the earlier revisions before Lisberger was fully onboard, I was excited. That is because, going just by the scriptment, it was a story with a real idea in its head. The clue is in the title: Legacy. See, the events of the original Tron should, in reality, have changed the world. Teleporting lasers that reveal a parallel dimension inside the electromagnetic field of computational devices? There's more hints of the story in the new trailer, but - suffice to say if half of what is in the scriptment survives to the screen, the movie is not stupid. Flynn disappears with his secrets when he has to in order for the present of Tron Legacy's reality to not be a totally different world from our own.
The script ideas also have massive implications for where the story could go and the nature of the Electronic World, and what that might mean for the real world. For example, something I can say because it's in the new trailer:
Notice that Clu 2.0 /knows/ who Sam Flynn is, knows that Flynn is his father, and even understands concepts such as human (User) reproduction and family structure? Unlike the first film, where the programs remained unaware of the nature of reality outside their domain, the programs in Legacy are capable of understanding the external world. What does this mean for the external world, should... well, ha ha, you'll see.
What I found neat about it is that it took what was basically very avant gard science fiction, that was surrealistic and placed idea before literality (a little world inside your computer?), and brought it up into what is really a formidable cyberpunk story by /any/ standards. The brief scenes in the trailer give me hope that much has survived intact from page to film. One other hopeful aspect is that from everything I've read, Lisberger essentially told Disney "Look, Tron was a weird, strange, experimental film that reached out to the audience in unexpected ways. We cannot make a sequel that's a typical 2010 popcorn flick. It won't work. It won't be accepted as Tron."
A lot of people are cynical about Legacy because it does bring the eye-candy and the neon-tinged Baysplosions, but remember, Tron was also about eyecandy in its day. With a little luck, the movie will prove that it is using its spectacle in the right way, which is to create a landscape of mystery and scale, like the original did, and sell the audience on the bizarre reality of its Electronic World (which the original did as well).
I've said it before and I'll say it again: This is my most anticipated film of the year and I was super hyped about Inception (which I loved). I cannot wait for this film and it's killing me I can't watch the new trailer.
I do remember this one line from the trailer, when Sam says "It's been a long time," and Flynn replies, "You have no idea..."
Kaijima, if you've seen spoilers, maybe you could tell us...
- Does Bruce Boxleitner have any substantial part in the film? Not just a cameo, like we see in the trailer? If so, does he only play Alan, or does Tron also appear somehow?
- What about David Warner? Obviously the MCP or Sark can't appear, but what about Ed Dillinger? He'd be about ready to get out of prison by now...
- Does the phrase "END OF LINE" appear anywhere?
Time passes in the electronic world 50 times faster than in the real world. So if Flynn has been 'down' for 20 years of real time, he's been in the computer world for a thousand years!
Kaijima, if you've seen spoilers, maybe you could tell us...
- Does Bruce Boxleitner have any substantial part in the film? Not just a cameo, like we see in the trailer? If so, does he only play Alan, or does Tron also appear somehow?
- What about David Warner? Obviously the MCP or Sark can't appear, but what about Ed Dillinger? He'd be about ready to get out of prison by now...
- Does the phrase "END OF LINE" appear anywhere?
I think it's a bit more than 50 times. IIRC in the first film he's only in there for mere minutes, if not seconds, objectively.
As for Bruce, I think it's just a cameo. IMDB only credits him for Alan, not Tron (which is a bit odd given the title.) Wikipedia credits him as Tron, but there's no source given that I can see so it's probably some editor's wishful thinking.
As for Bruce, I think it's just a cameo. IMDB only credits him for Alan, not Tron (which is a bit odd given the title.) Wikipedia credits him as Tron, but there's no source given that I can see so it's probably some editor's wishful thinking.
I find it fascinating that there is so much anticipation for a sequel to a 28-year-old movie that, as I recall, was not that well-received in 1982. Although I loved the original myself, I've seen some rather negative reviews of it over the years. Also, I've read that the video game made more money than the original's box office.
Still, the sequel looks beautiful and I look forward to seeing it.
Still, the sequel looks beautiful and I look forward to seeing it.
If it's any indication, Disney's official TRON website lists the following six cast members in that order:
Jeff Bridges - Kevin Flynn
Garret Hedlund - Sam Flynn
Olivia Wilde - Quorra
Michael Sheen - Castor
Bruce Boxleitner - Alan Bradley
Beau Garrett - Key Siren
Could be more than a cameo, but not more than a supporting role.
As someone who saw a late-night show of Tron in late summer, 1982, this is THE movie of the year that I'm looking forward to (after Iron Man2). I have to believe that Tron figures into the story somewhere. He was a major character in the original and there has been ZERO mention if his being in the sequel. I'm thinking this is on purpose. As for Ed Dillinger, he met Gordon Gekko in prison and will be in Wall Street 2 this fall instead.
I don't suppose we get to meet Lora again, or also whoever Sam's mother turns out to be? (I'm guessing that Sam's mom is *not* Lora, as she appeared to be with Alan in the first film)
I just saw the new trailer. Olivia Wilde looks really good if you ask me.
More girls should cut and style their hair like that. It should the be "it" thing for the next decade.
More girls should cut and style their hair like that. It should the be "it" thing for the next decade.
Normally I couldn't give a damn about this 3D fad, but if this film is shown that way anywhere near here I might just bite.
And I hope there's a LOT of lightcycles.
And I hope there's a LOT of lightcycles.
Yeah, that what's got me excited — you can still enjoy the original if you simply think of the two films as Alpha and Omega.
The world of Legacy is just the TRON world upgraded to the Nth degree.
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