"Trials & Tribble-ations" "In A Mirror, Darkly"

[Galileo7]

DS9 episode "Trials & Tribble-ations" and ENTERPRISE episode "In A Mirror, Darkly" convinced me that TOS production designs, costumes and props still endure. They looked right being used by the casts of both DS9 and ENTERPRISE.

 

[Char Aznable]

I'd prefer to hear what the general public would say to that before I make that assertion. I mean, we LOVE that TOS look since it's what we grew up with. Logically, we're rather biased.

 

[BillJ]

I'd prefer to hear what the general public would say to that before I make that assertion. I mean, we LOVE that TOS look since it's what we grew up with. Logically, we're rather biased.

I think the exterior of the Enterprise would have stood out on the big screen with some additional detailing. I would've updated the tech on the bridge but left the design and color scheme largely unchanged.

 

[doctorwho 03]

I think the original look still holds up today. If only they put that look into ST XI. I especially like New Voyages/Phase II & Starship Exeter. They nail it perfectly.

 

[kkozoriz1]

Agreed. A few tweaks here and there. A bit more detail. It still works.

So many things were changed for now good reason. The glass partitions. The lights shining in people's faces. If the uniforms worked with minor changes why wouldn't the rest of the ship? The corridors were totally wrong. I half expected to see Darth Vader or the scientists from the original Andromeda Strain. Love both those movies but the look just doesn't say Star Trek to me.

 

[Nero's Shadow]

Oh yeah I still think the TOS look still fits in today so glad it's gone back to the roots always the best and never get tired of it !!!!

 

[doubleohfive]

One of the things I wish would happen, which I wish I were in a position to do myself, would be to have one of the fan film groups mount a production as a feature, not an 'episode in a series.'

They ALL want to do a 'series.'

I want to see a story, a film done in the TOS era, about another ship and crew, written as a standalone film. I think it could be quite exceptional. The set designs, wardrobe, visual effects -- it could all be done as if it were a film in the 1960s and as close to 1960s filmmaking technique as possible -- a la Starship Exeter. Sure, it's a super-niche audience it would be catering to, but I still think it would rock.

Just my two cents.

 

[Galileo7]

STAR TREK PHASE II have made several with Star Trek veterans, such as George Takei etc. I believe Paramount used their original 1701 standing sets for the Enterprise episode "In A Mirror, Darkly":
http://www.startreknewvoyages.com/

 

[doubleohfive]

Oh I'm well aware of New Voyages. I was at "A Night in 1969" about two years ago with friends and ran in to many of the actors and production personnel from many of the fan films too.

First: New Voyages is a series. They've done episodes and have several more in production.

Second: My humble opinion: The two best fan films produced to date are New Voyages' "World Enough and Time" and the nearly completed "The Tressaurian Intersection" from Starship Exeter.

Third: The New Voyages sets are in Ticonderoga, New York. When Enterprise lensed "In A Mirror Darkly," James Cawley sent the retractable sensor scope for Sulu's station to Paramount for use in the two-parter.

 

[Galileo7]

Oh I'm well aware of New Voyages. I was at "A Night in 1969" about two years ago with friends and ran in to many of the actors and production personnel from many of the fan films too.

First: New Voyages is a series. They've done episodes and have several more in production.

Second: My humble opinion: The two best fan films produced to date are New Voyages' "World Enough and Time" and the nearly completed "The Tressaurian Intersection" from Starship Exeter.

Third: The New Voyages sets are in Ticonderoga, New York. When Enterprise lensed "In A Mirror Darkly," James Cawley sent the retractable sensor scope for Sulu's station to Paramount for use in the two-parter.

Thanks for setting the record straight, I was not totally sure about those facts. You are talking a movie, good examples.

 

[darkwing_duck1]

The new upper corridors looked pretty good I thought. Hated the "industrial" sections with a passion.

The bridge too wasn't as bad as it could have been...it was far too busy and cluttered though, and the readouts were just psychadelic drifting random crap. it didn't have any sense of organization or purpose behind it.

And what the frak was with EVERY station having a throttle?

Oh, and the doors were fru fru.

 

[kkozoriz1]

THe upper corridors are the ones I was talking about. Way too bright. Way too smooth. The difference between the corridors and the bridge compared to engineering for instance. It didn't feel connected like they were different parts of the same ship. What was it, the Titanic with first class and then steerage?
TOS had cohesion.

 

[Kelso]

Outside of the nostalgia factor, those sets would not hold up in a modern day production. They looked silly enough in the 1996 and 2005 tv episodes, they certainly wouldn't have worked in a 2009 feature film without significant changes.

 

[kkozoriz1]

I'm not saying recreate them exactly. But, have the nooks and crannies for the ladders between decks. Equipment access points. The stark white and curved walls didn't say TOS to me. There was one of the Shatner novels about a ship with a gleaming white interior. They would work for that ship.

 

[JWD75]

While the exterior of the jj-prise has grown on me, I've come to hate the interior sets more as time as time goes on. I hope the ship gets a serious interior remodeling for the sequel and above all, a proper engineering set.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Outside of the nostalgia factor, those sets would not hold up in a modern day production. They looked silly enough in the 1996 and 2005 tv episodes, they certainly wouldn't have worked in a 2009 feature film without significant changes.

Yep.

 

[darkwing_duck1]

THe upper corridors are the ones I was talking about. Way too bright. Way too smooth. The difference between the corridors and the bridge compared to engineering for instance. It didn't feel connected like they were different parts of the same ship. What was it, the Titanic with first class and then steerage?
TOS had cohesion.

I agree about cohesion and the Engineering corridors being crap, but the "upper" corridors (the white ones) were very much TOS, which had bright, open corridors like that. If they had used those corridor sets throughout I would have been satisfied vis a vis corridors.

Still would have hated the breweryneering room though.

 

[Gary7]

The new upper corridors looked pretty good I thought. Hated the "industrial" sections with a passion.

The bridge too wasn't as bad as it could have been...it was far too busy and cluttered though, and the readouts were just psychadelic drifting random crap. it didn't have any sense of organization or purpose behind it.

And what the frak was with EVERY station having a throttle?

Oh, and the doors were fru fru.

Speaking of "fru fru"...

 

[Potemkin_Prod]

Now that's funny.

 

[Robert D. Robot]

^ Yes, EXCELLENT!!