Eigth in a series examining which movie, of the original nominees, should have won the Oscar. Up next: Best Picture, 1986... which nominee was most deserving? Comments encouraged.
TrekBBS Academy Awards - #8: Best Picture, 1986
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I voted for Platoon out of the actual nominees, Although the best movie of 1986 wasn't even nominated.....
Blue Velvet
This movie deserved at least a nomination. It's a fantastic thriller in the tradition of hitchcock, with fascinating characters. Another wrong is the fact that Dennis Hopper wasn't nominated for his performance in the film, which is legendary.
Of course, if anyone here follows my posts at all, you'll realise I'm a Lynch freak, so I might be a little biased
As for Platoon, it is a very good film, I just feel that there had already been vietnam movies and anti-war films in the past. It was good, but didn't bring anything special to the table.
Blue Velvet
This movie deserved at least a nomination. It's a fantastic thriller in the tradition of hitchcock, with fascinating characters. Another wrong is the fact that Dennis Hopper wasn't nominated for his performance in the film, which is legendary.
Of course, if anyone here follows my posts at all, you'll realise I'm a Lynch freak, so I might be a little biased
As for Platoon, it is a very good film, I just feel that there had already been vietnam movies and anti-war films in the past. It was good, but didn't bring anything special to the table.
For comparison, the top-rated English language feature films of 1986 on IMDB are:
Aliens (8.5)
Platoon (8.2)
Stand By Me (8.2)
Ferris Bueller's Day Off (7.9)
Hannah and Her Sisters (7.9)
Parting Glances (7.9)
Blue Velvet (7.8)
Down by Law (7.8)
The Name of the Rose (7.6)
Hoosiers (7.5)
A Room with a View (7.5)
Salvador (7.5)
The Fly (7.4)
The Mission (7.4)
Children of a Lesser God scores a 7.0.
Of the 50 films nominated for Best Picture in the 1980s there are 7 that I haven't seen and two of them are from 1986: Hannah and Her Sisters and A Room with a View. Out of the three nominated films that I have seen it's a close call between The Mission and Platoon for my vote as to which film should have won. I'll throw my vote to The Mission.
The score for The Mission is one of the greatest ever written. Ennio Morricone was nominated for it, but didn't win (in fact he's never won an Oscar in competition, having to make do with an honorary award). I haven't seen the film that won for Best Score that year ('Round Midnight), but it would have to be one hell of a score to deserve beating The Mission. In all likelihood the Academy simply got it wrong, but of course I'll have to see 'Round Midnight to make that judgment.
Aliens (8.5)
Platoon (8.2)
Stand By Me (8.2)
Ferris Bueller's Day Off (7.9)
Hannah and Her Sisters (7.9)
Parting Glances (7.9)
Blue Velvet (7.8)
Down by Law (7.8)
The Name of the Rose (7.6)
Hoosiers (7.5)
A Room with a View (7.5)
Salvador (7.5)
The Fly (7.4)
The Mission (7.4)
Children of a Lesser God scores a 7.0.
Of the 50 films nominated for Best Picture in the 1980s there are 7 that I haven't seen and two of them are from 1986: Hannah and Her Sisters and A Room with a View. Out of the three nominated films that I have seen it's a close call between The Mission and Platoon for my vote as to which film should have won. I'll throw my vote to The Mission.
The score for The Mission is one of the greatest ever written. Ennio Morricone was nominated for it, but didn't win (in fact he's never won an Oscar in competition, having to make do with an honorary award). I haven't seen the film that won for Best Score that year ('Round Midnight), but it would have to be one hell of a score to deserve beating The Mission. In all likelihood the Academy simply got it wrong, but of course I'll have to see 'Round Midnight to make that judgment.
I voted for Platoon, but agree that Blue Velvet was the best of the year. Stand By Me also deserved a nomination that year. Overall, pretty weak nominees.
And, amusingly, despite some rather specific cultural references, one of the best movies on that list is Ferris Bueller's Day Off. I mean, really, what a fun film... not necessarily a Best Picture type of movie, but great.
I voted for Hannah and Her Sisters because I love every movie Woody Allen has ever made. Really, I think he's probably the single best director of all time... and writer. I really liked this one and I would feel bad if it didn't get at least one vote. Kirkman, you're a Lynch freak - and I'm definitely a Woody Allen freak
I did really like Blue Velvet too, though.
I voted for Hannah and Her Sisters because I love every movie Woody Allen has ever made. Really, I think he's probably the single best director of all time... and writer. I really liked this one and I would feel bad if it didn't get at least one vote. Kirkman, you're a Lynch freak - and I'm definitely a Woody Allen freak
I did really like Blue Velvet too, though.
Ferris Bueller's Day Off is one of my all-time favorite films. Alien and Aliens are both great works of cinema in my opinion, and it's a close call as to which is better. I actually lean towards Aliens.
Blue Velvet, Stand By Me, and Aliens were all worthy of being Best Picture nominees, and I'd place each one of them above Children of a Lesser God.
Blue Velvet, Stand By Me, and Aliens were all worthy of being Best Picture nominees, and I'd place each one of them above Children of a Lesser God.
No problem with Platoon winning, but I loved Room With A View. I agree that Stand By Me deserved a nomination, though.
Salvador is indeed good. It certainly has a stronger central performance, I think, with James Woods, than Charlie Sheen in Platoon. But the beat where John Savage's character dies taking an "important" photograph rings a little false--it's little more than a photograph of a plane on a strafing run, if you think about it. It's also a film that was inarguably saved in the editing room. Most of the deleted scenes found on the DVD are just atrocious!
Voted for Platoon. One of the few pictures that, no matter how many times I watch it, the effects stay with me for days. This movie is probably one of the main reasons I'm so anti-war in general, except in the most dire and inescapable of circumstances where there is no other choice.
Sending young men and women into that sort of situation is just a horrible thing to do to them, if it can be avoided. Even if you escape with your life...it fucks with your mind for the rest of your life.
Second place - Children of a Lesser God. Beautiful movie.
Sending young men and women into that sort of situation is just a horrible thing to do to them, if it can be avoided. Even if you escape with your life...it fucks with your mind for the rest of your life.
Second place - Children of a Lesser God. Beautiful movie.
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