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Trek XI's implications for future Trek novels (major movie spoilers)

Re: Trek XI's implications for future Trek novels (major movie spoiler

^ To be fair, the line in the film could be interpreted either way. I certainly thought it was a total figure.
 
Re: Trek XI's implications for future Trek novels (major movie spoiler

More from Orci in the same TrekMovie thread, this time on Delta Vega:
I prefer to think of Delta Vega as being in close orbit (although it could be a moon), but nonetheless, we like to think of that sequence as impressionistic for a general audience. In other words, Nero could’ve beamed Spock prime down to Delta Vega with a telescope or some other type of measuring device to allow Spock to experience the pain of perceiving the destruction of his home world, but that simply isn’t very cinematic.
 
Re: Trek XI's implications for future Trek novels (major movie spoiler

Hmmm, cool. I think this was another situation where I was thinking of things too literally.
 
Re: Trek XI's implications for future Trek novels (major movie spoiler

I loved the movie, but I'm hoping we still might have some original timeline TOS books. Or maybe I should just finish reading the 100 so that are already there... :lol:
 
Re: Trek XI's implications for future Trek novels (major movie spoiler

I loved the movie, but I'm hoping we still might have some original timeline TOS books.

There's one coming out any week now, Troublesome Minds by Dave Galanter. And there will be at least two more next year, the Saavik-centered Unspoken Truth by Margaret Wander Bonanno and the Robert April-centered The Millennium Bloom by Mike W. Barr.
 
Re: Trek XI's implications for future Trek novels (major movie spoiler

I loved the movie, but I'm hoping we still might have some original timeline TOS books.

There's one coming out any week now, Troublesome Minds by Dave Galanter. And there will be at least two more next year, the Saavik-centered Unspoken Truth by Margaret Wander Bonanno and the Robert April-centered The Millennium Bloom by Mike W. Barr.

Awesome!
 
Re: Trek XI's implications for future Trek novels (major movie spoiler

I'm assuming that since the new movie established George Kirk as a USS Kelvin crewmember, he probably won't be in The Millenium Bloom?
 
Re: Trek XI's implications for future Trek novels (major movie spoiler

I'm assuming that since the new movie established George Kirk as a USS Kelvin crewmember, he probably won't be in The Millenium Bloom?

George was a Kelvin crewmember in 2233, and he was probably near the end of his tour, since in the original timeline Kirk was born in Iowa. According to Orci, the ship was already on its way back to Earth but got diverted to study the "lightning storm in space." Any novel about April aboard the Enterprise would be at least a dozen years later -- plenty of time for George to spend years at home with his family and then transfer to a new ship.

That said, if it were up to me, I'd prefer not to follow Diane Carey's precedent of having Kirk's father serve aboard the Enterprise. It's a little too Dickensian.
 
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Oh, ok. I've never actually read Final Frontier or Best Destiny, I just knew that they focused on April, with George as his XO.
 
Re: Trek XI's implications for future Trek novels (major movie spoiler

One issue that might need to be addressed is the effect of the amount of drilling that the Narada managed to get done at Earth.


Even if it was not enough to allow for the red matter drop, would the damage that was done be enough to compromise San Francisco in the medium to long term?

And if not, why not?
 
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Christopher, can you reveal anything of the plots on the two TOS books?
 
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Oh, ok. I've never actually read Final Frontier or Best Destiny, I just knew that they focused on April, with George as his XO.

don't bother. they're crap.
 
Re: Trek XI's implications for future Trek novels (major movie spoiler

One issue that might need to be addressed is the effect of the amount of drilling that the Narada managed to get done at Earth.


Even if it was not enough to allow for the red matter drop, would the damage that was done be enough to compromise San Francisco in the medium to long term?

And if not, why not?

You couldn't keep a hole like that in the Earth's crust open for long; the rock would flow back together and seal it up, probably quite quickly given that the rock on the edges of the hole was presumably left molten by the beam. So it's not like the water in San Francisco Bay would swirl down the drain. There might be some minor tremors as the Earth settles, some disruptions to the bay's current flow by the residual heat and changed contours of the bay floor, but I don't see the city being "compromised" in any significant way.



Christopher, can you reveal anything of the plots on the two TOS books?

I don't know any more about them than what I can read on Memory Alpha.
 
Re: Trek XI's implications for future Trek novels (major movie spoiler

Oh, ok. I've never actually read Final Frontier or Best Destiny, I just knew that they focused on April, with George as his XO.

don't bother. they're crap.

Actually, they're not. Final Frontier is fantastic, and would have made a decent TV-movie or miniseries when the TV franchise was still going. Not hugely fond of Best Destiny, but it's far from being "crap."
 
Re: Trek XI's implications for future Trek novels (major movie spoiler

One issue that might need to be addressed is the effect of the amount of drilling that the Narada managed to get done at Earth.

Spock shot down the base of the drill and it plugged the hole when it fell. :techman:
 
Re: Trek XI's implications for future Trek novels (major movie spoiler

Oh, ok. I've never actually read Final Frontier or Best Destiny, I just knew that they focused on April, with George as his XO.

don't bother. they're crap.

Actually, they're not. Final Frontier is fantastic, and would have made a decent TV-movie or miniseries when the TV franchise was still going. Not hugely fond of Best Destiny, but it's far from being "crap."

Gee, I hope they're not crap. I just picked them up.:shifty:
 
Re: Trek XI's implications for future Trek novels (major movie spoiler

don't bother. they're crap.

Actually, they're not. Final Frontier is fantastic, and would have made a decent TV-movie or miniseries when the TV franchise was still going. Not hugely fond of Best Destiny, but it's far from being "crap."

Gee, I hope they're not crap. I just picked them up.:shifty:

They're not. I just finished Best Destiny, and I thought it was one of the best that I've read.
 
Re: Trek XI's implications for future Trek novels (major movie spoiler

Perhaps I'm a little late to bring up this subject, but I didn't particularly feel like reading through all eleven pages. But what about the way the Countdown comics set up for the new movie? The comic itself doesn't really seem to negate anything in the novels, but the fact that the Path to 2409 stuff in STO is set up to fit with Countdown, that presents a problem. Obviously, it's too late to reconcile the novels and STO, but will Countdown eventually factor into later novels? Will a different version of the Countdown events occur in the novels? Or will the novels disregard Countdown all together?
 
Re: Trek XI's implications for future Trek novels (major movie spoiler

Obviously, it's too late to reconcile the novels and STO, but will Countdown eventually factor into later novels? Will a different version of the Countdown events occur in the novels? Or will the novels disregard Countdown all together?

It's probably years before it will become an issue, since the novel continuity is still five in-story years before Countdown. But the books aren't beholden to the comics, and there are a couple of things in Countdown that arguably are inconsistent with the movie itself anyway. Even Roberto Orci himself, the co-writer of the film and co-plotter of Countdown, has stated more than once that it isn't canonical. My guess is that the novels will go their own way.

Of course, there's no reason to retell these specific events in a different way. The movie already spelled out those basic events, so I assume the novels would just deal with events before, after, and parallel to the destruction of Romulus.
 
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