Trek-XI is gonna flop f***** big!

[Beyerstein]

I think they populate the enterprise with 20-something year old kids it won't be taken seriously.

look this guy looks more like nsync than capt kirk

 

[Therin of Andor]

As the old saying goes....."Absence makes the heart grow fonder"...

For about six months before ST:TMP, Gene Roddenberry convinced Paramount to put a freeze on syndicated reruns of TOS. It had been rating very highly in early evening prime time all through the 70s, but it was decided that with no ST to see on a daily basis, fans would develop a hunger for it, and demand to see TMP would rise.

 

[ST-One]

I think they populate the enterprise with 20-something year old kids it won't be taken seriously.

look this guy looks more like nsync than capt kirk

 

[Squiggy]

I think they populate the enterprise with 20-something year old kids it won't be taken seriously.

look this guy looks more like nsync than capt kirk

1. [sarcasm] Yeah, because so many people took Star Trek seriously before.[/sarcasm]

2. Anyone can get have an Nsync pose and look like they're in Nsync. He'll look like however he's marketed. Also, he's 27, which is appropriate for the role that he's playing as Shatner was 35 when Trek started.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

I think they populate the enterprise with 20-something year old kids it won't be taken seriously.

It's not taken seriously now, and almost no one cares.

 

[Beyerstein]

yeah but it's gonna be the muppet babies version of star trek

 

[Squiggy]

No. If Jim Henson was doing a cartoon version of Star Trek, you'd be right.

 

[Jack Bauer]

yeah but it's gonna be the muppet babies version of star trek

Twenty somethings are muppet babies? What are you...567 years old?

 

[Squiggy]

Here are the options...apparently.

1. Keep cranking out TNG era movies regardless of the fact that people no longer care, it's not profitable, the cast has aged past "marketability" and TNG movies have failed to impress at least 50% of the time.

2. Go with a DS9 movie, 8 years after the show went off the air, regardless of the fact there wasn't a large enough audience to begin with.

3. Go with a Voyager movie, regardless that it's been off the air for 7 years and there wasn't much of an audience to speak of anyway and the story has been wrapped up.

4. Go with an Enterprise movie. Hard sell since it was cancelled.

5. Keep the TOS crew as is and have a bunch of 80 year olds in charge of a Star Ship while digging up the corpses of Kelley and Doohan...propping them up and controlling them like marianettes. So far, this one would entertain the most people.

6. New ship, new crew...one that has no fan base.

7. Nothing, let the franchise shrivel and die.

 

[cybersoldier]

yeah but it's gonna be the muppet babies version of star trek

If not the team america verison could have been in mind

 

[Surak]

Trek is something that doesn't appeal to Joe Sixpack or the much desired teen/early 20s demographics. Star Trek is seen as a nerdy and geeky program

Maybe in your home town?

ST:TMP, ST IV, Seasons 3-7 of TNG and "First Contact" had sufficient appeal to the "Joe Sixpacks" and their families to get them watching. Why would JJ Abrams' ST movie, with a big budget and high profile be any different?

I'm curious, its a little before my time, but how much of a "mainstream" audience went to see TWOK.

--

The new movie is going to make money. Period.

 

[Kryton]

yeah but it's gonna be the muppet babies version of star trek

If not the team america verison could have been in mind

"Starfleet...FUCK YEAH!"

I could see it.

 

[ancient]

If geeky stuff doesn't make money, I guess I must have imagined the PT. Whew.

 

[Superman]

Please stop with the mexican hat thing, it stopped being funny about three weeks ago.

The OP has a valid point, my only problem is that the movie has a year to go, so Paramount can properly market the thing, they haven't blown it *yet*

Thank you for saying this. Only a handful of people think the sombrero thing is funny, and since they're more vocal, we have to tolerate hearing about this--and seeing this--everywhere.

It was old two days in.

\S/

 

[Haggis and tatties]

As the old saying goes....."Absence makes the heart grow fonder"...

For about six months before ST:TMP, Gene Roddenberry convinced Paramount to put a freeze on syndicated reruns of TOS. It had been rating very highly in early evening prime time all through the 70s, but it was decided that with no ST to see on a daily basis, fans would develop a hunger for it, and demand to see TMP would rise.

Interesting snippet of info there........thanks.

 

[Therin of Andor]

I'm curious, its a little before my time, but how much of a "mainstream" audience went to see TWOK.

It did very respectable business with the general public, especially for a motion picture that was in pre-production by the Television division of Paramount Pictures. It was originally intended to be a telemovie for the US market, and released theatrically internationally like BSG, "BSG: The Cylon Attack" and "Buck Rodgers". (TMP, however, ran for a very long time in many parts of the world. Here in Sydney, Australia, for example, TMP started at the end of December 1979, was still playing in the big cinemas until Easter 1980, then returned to regional areas and suburban cinemas for the school holidays of May and August.)

ST III, though, didn't get a release at all in some European countries, which is why a special Shatner-narrated prologue was made to be tacked onto the front of European prints of "The Voyage Home: Star Trek IV", as it was promoted there.

 

[Therin of Andor]

Only a handful of people think the sombrero thing is funny, and since they're more vocal, we have to tolerate hearing about this--and seeing this--everywhere.
It was old two days in.

Maybe, but your current Joker avatar seems to be saying, "Omigod, where's my sombrero!"

 

[Skywalker]

yeah but it's gonna be the muppet babies version of star trek

Dude, Muppet Babies kicked ass!

 

[James Bond]

Here are the options...apparently.

1. Keep cranking out TNG era movies regardless of the fact that people no longer care, it's not profitable, the cast has aged past "marketability" and TNG movies have failed to impress at least 50% of the time.

2. Go with a DS9 movie, 8 years after the show went off the air, regardless of the fact there wasn't a large enough audience to begin with.

3. Go with a Voyager movie, regardless that it's been off the air for 7 years and there wasn't much of an audience to speak of anyway and the story has been wrapped up.

4. Go with an Enterprise movie. Hard sell since it was cancelled.

5. Keep the TOS crew as is and have a bunch of 80 year olds in charge of a Star Ship while digging up the corpses of Kelley and Doohan...propping them up and controlling them like marianettes. So far, this one would entertain the most people.

6. New ship, new crew...one that has no fan base.

7. Nothing, let the franchise shrivel and die.

Any one of those options will do, just as long as people like the OP and Beyerstein are happy. That's all I care about.

 

[Beyerstein]

6. New ship, new crew...one that has no fan base.

even though they are using TOS characters, this is still basically what they are doing.. and any feature film with 'Star Trek' in the title would hopefully pull back some fan base.