Trek Series set in the distant past

[Voth commando1]

Okay so what about a Trek series set in the distant past little to no human characters.

Say the ancient humanoids, the preservers, Iconian, and T'kon empires, also a novel from the Voth perspective.

In the old Canon in Star Wars there was both a novel and comic series set around 25,000 years before the battle of Yavin.

So could a trek tv show, comic or novel work in the distant past of the lore?

 

[Ghel]

I probably wouldn't be interested for a few reasons. 1. Even when Trek focuses on aliens, it is in relationship to humanity. Generally it is our future, our exploration of humanity etc. 2. Most aliens are fun/interesting in the short term but become too one-dimentional when they are the focus of the show. Klingons = Warriors, Romulans = duplicity/spies, Ferengi = capitalism/corporate mentality. Even if writers attempted a more 3-dementional characterization, I could easily see a show like this falling into a similar trap. 3. Peril--Iconians and all the other races are dead already well before humanity's existence. We know it. How do you get past the "who cares" factor when writing about a people long dead before humanity even exists. Even in Star Wars "Long Ago" there is a sense of it being in the "present" and a rebellion based upon hope in the future. If it were a given that episode 12 ended in a galaxy wide cataclysm destroying all life in the Star Wars galaxy, it would be a much harder "sell."

 

[Voth commando1]

I probably wouldn't be interested for a few reasons. 1. Even when Trek focuses on aliens, it is in relationship to humanity. Generally it is our future, our exploration of humanity etc. 2. Most aliens are fun/interesting in the short term but become too one-dimentional when they are the focus of the show. Klingons = Warriors, Romulans = duplicity/spies, Ferengi = capitalism/corporate mentality. Even if writers attempted a more 3-dementional characterization, I could easily see a show like this falling into a similar trap. 3. Peril--Iconians and all the other races are dead already well before humanity's existence. We know it. How do you get past the "who cares" factor when writing about a people long dead before humanity even exists. Even in Star Wars "Long Ago" there is a sense of it being in the "present" and a rebellion based upon hope in the future. If it were a given that episode 12 ended in a galaxy wide cataclysm destroying all life in the Star Wars galaxy, it would be a much harder "sell."

I mentioned there was a comic series and novel set 25,000 years before the movies. Not to mention earlier comics(in the 90s) that were set 4,000 or five thousand years before the movies. I don't see why this wouldn't work.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

It wouldn't work. There'd be no one - indeed, nothing - to relate to.

 

[Smoked Salmon]

Maybe a one off episode as part of a Trek series, but not as a series by itself. Trek, is at it's core, a human story. It's about humanity's progress.

 

[Tosk]

Star Wars isn't about the future of humanity. Star Trek is.

 

[Voth commando1]

Star Wars isn't about the future of humanity. Star Trek is.

Perhaps as a novel series then? Or comic at least?

Star Trek with its heavily devoted and rather insular fanbase I think would accept hey Iconians.

I dunno have Lucly and Dulmur go back in time to meet the Ancient Humanoids. Something like that.

 

[Tosk]

Dulmer and Lucsly aren't time travellers. They investigate the fall out of time travel incidents and make rulings.

 

[Voth commando1]

Dulmer and Lucsly aren't time travellers. They investigate the fall out of time travel incidents and make rulings.

And why can't in the fallout they end up in the distant past. DTI has them going a long time in the future? Why not?

Or a time ship relativity story. With Ducane and Braxton.

Or just a plain old appeal to your most dedicated fans Iconian War novel about well fighting Iconians.

 

[Tosk]

DTI has them going a long time in the future?

In the words of Seth Rogen in 40 Year-Old Virgin, "Well, I wasn't aware of that, so I'm sorry."

 

[The Wormhole]

Star Trek is about humanity's future. Farting around in the dinosaur era with the Iconians and the T'Kon or the Preservers just isn't suitable material for a Trek series. Hell, the episodes centering around the ancient races in the Trek universe aren't even all that interesting. Well, okay, To the Death is actually an awesome episode, but that's because of the Jem'Hadar, not because of the Iconians.

 

[Voth commando1]

Star Trek is about humanity's future. Farting around in the dinosaur era with the Iconians and the T'Kon or the Preservers just isn't suitable material for a Trek series. Hell, the episodes centering around the ancient races in the Trek universe aren't even all that interesting. Well, okay, To the Death is actually an awesome episode, but that's because of the Jem'Hadar, not because of the Iconians.

Interesting is a matter of taste you know. And why not as kitschy IU content that would appeal to hardcore fans.

 

[The Wormhole]

And why not as kitschy IU content that would appeal to hardcore fans.

Bold statement. A large percentage of fandom likely doesn't even remember the T'Kon. And I guarantee you, no one chooses to re-watch The Last Outpost because it's the one that mentions the T'Kon. Actually, no one chooses to re-watch The Last Outpost. Period.

 

[Voth commando1]

Bold statement. A large percentage of fandom likely doesn't even remember the T'Kon. And I guarantee you, no one chooses to re-watch The Last Outpost because it's the one that mentions the T'Kon. Actually, no one chooses to re-watch The Last Outpost. Period.

I watched it and didn't think it was that bad. After all Yar looked hot.

 

[BillJ]

No Starfleet. No Federation. No humans. Why not just do something original?

 

[UnknownSample]

Seeing the thread title, I instantly thought of a Trek starship being thrown back in time centuries, then having to deal with being marooned there.

 

[cultcross]

Seeing the thread title, I instantly thought of a Trek starship being thrown back in time centuries, then having to deal with being marooned there.

Yeah me too. Although derivative of Voyager that would at least be Trek like. However, STIV established just how easy time warp is in Trek so they wouldn't be marooned for long.
As for what you're suggesting, OP, I don't see why it would be a Trek show. Ancient Astronauts is a trope in its own right, just do something original with that.

 

[Nyotarules]

Seeing the thread title, I instantly thought of a Trek starship being thrown back in time centuries, then having to deal with being marooned there.

You can read the Destiny novels to get your back in time kick lol

 

[Tracy Trek]

Seeing the thread title, I instantly thought of a Trek starship being thrown back in time centuries, then having to deal with being marooned there.

That sort of sounds like the Trek novel First Frontier. Only it was millions of years. They did get back, and they had to fix something to make sure history righted itself. Anyone else recall that one?

Wait a minute, I think they had to go back on purpose to fix something that someone else changed. And then it was a struggle whether they would be able to complete their mission and get back.

The idea from the OP might make an interesting novel or comic. Not a whole series though.

 

[Idran]

Perhaps as a novel series then?

The Q-Continuum trilogy was like 90% about the ancient past of the galaxy. Buried Age had a lot of that too, though it was still set in a modern era.

Also, to be fair, there's no reason to think from TOS that the Preservers were some huge significant empire or group in the far distant past except for some reason that idea got picked up as widespread fanon. The only evidence we have of the Preservers is that they picked up cultures at risk of extinction some time in the 17th-19th centuries and put them on other planets (seeing as how the cultures in question weren't really in danger of extinction at a point before then), and they had technology that could redirect an asteroid. That's not really all that extraordinary or ancient. I can't imagine that if an asteroid was heading towards Earth, Vulcan, Andor, or wherever, that there wouldn't some sort of stations or land-based facilities or something that would be able to redirect it.