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Trek Prequel Comic -SPOILERS- (official COUNTDOWN review thread)

All interesting but I doubt most of this will be evident in the actual movie. Sure this backstory was developed by the screenwriters. But will likely only be suggested in vague hints of dialogue.

Precisely. Movie audiences won't be expected to know the content of four comics before attending the cinema. As was explained months ago when IDW announced this mini-series.
 
well it's like the relationship between 24:Redemption and 24, season 7 isn't it?

Redemption is a prequel, yet was concieved and filmed after the first few episodes of season 7. so it's not vital to have seen it and if you didn't know it existed you wouldn't feel like you were missing anything, but if you do see it before the 'main event', it can only add to your enjoyment.
 
We've never had this type of tie-in before, correct? And not to stir the pot, but are the comics considered canon? :cool:
 
By definition, wouldn't "Captain Data" have to be B-4 after successfully assimilating all of the real Data's programming from NEMESIS? So he "becomes Data" by means of acquiring his knowledge and personality?

I can't wait to see how the writers explain this in the next comic. I think this is Orci & Kurtzman statement that they never liked the idea of Data being killed off.

We've never had this type of tie-in before, correct? And not to stir the pot, but are the comics considered canon? :cool:

I asked a similar question in another forum, and it got to be an "spirited" discussion. - LINK

Personally I'm ecstatic over the "resurrection" of Data (In Trek, First Officers seem to always come back to life...........:lol:).

Since I very much doubt we'll see another TNG film any time soon (if ever), this could be considered canon, or at the very least in the literary world........comics, novels......etc. I'd love to see a writer tackle and expand this in depth - how Data was brought back. :)
 
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We've never had this type of tie-in before, correct? And not to stir the pot, but are the comics considered canon? :cool:

I think there's a thread somewhere around here were people, as expected, are arguing about it.

In my opinion, no the comics are not canon since they are not onscreen.

But that is not really an important question at all.
Since the story is written by the movie writers and ties in with the movie, we can accept it as "true" until a movie or tv show comes and changes the events depicted in the comics, if that ever happens which I doubt.
 
after reading this comic i think it,s safe to say something is going to happen to nero's wife and unborn child that will either turn him evil or involve himself some way in time travel to undue her fate. just some supposition on my part.
 
By definition, wouldn't "Captain Data" have to be B-4 after successfully assimilating all of the real Data's programming from NEMESIS? So he "becomes Data" by means of acquiring his knowledge and personality?

I can't wait to see how the writers explain this in the next comic. I think this is Orci & Kurtzman statement that they never liked the idea of Data being killed off.

So, they must've liked the idea of Shatner's Kirk being killed off? ;)
 
I read a synopsis, and immediately got excited when I read Captain Data :lol:
 
I dunno. I find it very hard to swallow the idea that the Romulan Senate would be so dismissive of Spock. Even today we know it's possible for a star going supernova to produce disasterous results on inhabited planets a hundred light years away or even more. So, what Spock proposes is at least plausible. Seems ignorant and naive on the Romulan's part to not at least agree to try to corroborate his findings. What would that hurt?
 
Seems ignorant and naive on the Romulan's part to not at least agree to try to corroborate his findings. What would that hurt?

I quote the Romulan senator from the comic

" But I assure you that the best scientific minds on Romulus have studied the Hobus star and have not come to the same cataclysmic conclusions.
And decalithium is a rare and valuable raw material in the empire. We will not willingly hand it over to the Vulcans, despite your well-intentioned supplications"

And after Nero's intervention

" But the ambassador's conclusions are hasty, drastic and require further investigation"

So it's not like they have not investigated the supernova. They have the assurances of the best Romulan scientists that's it's all good.

And they are after all politicians.
No matter what progress has been made in relations thanks to Spock, I think it's still too much to ask to ignore all Romulan scientists and believe a Vulcan and hand to him rare and valuable resources to take to his home planet.
 
Seems ignorant and naive on the Romulan's part to not at least agree to try to corroborate his findings. What would that hurt?

I quote the Romulan senator from the comic

" But I assure you that the best scientific minds on Romulus have studied the Hobus star and have not come to the same cataclysmic conclusions.
And decalithium is a rare and valuable raw material in the empire. We will not willingly hand it over to the Vulcans, despite your well-intentioned supplications"

And after Nero's intervention

" But the ambassador's conclusions are hasty, drastic and require further investigation"

So it's not like they have not investigated the supernova. They have the assurances of the best Romulan scientists that's it's all good.

And they are after all politicians.
No matter what progress has been made in relations thanks to Spock, I think it's still too much to ask to ignore all Romulan scientists and believe a Vulcan and hand to him rare and valuable resources to take to his home planet.

Fair enough.
 
The comics sound very fanboyish. I hope they get a lot of that stuff out of the way before the new movie. This sounds like all the stuff they are trying to get away from in the new movie.

Agreed on the obvious Jor-El/Krypton similarities.

They did something similar with the four prequel comic books that came out before "Superman Returns." I regret buying those four terrible comics almost as much as I regret watching the movie.

And the canon argument will likely become moot once they go back in time and "start all over again."
 
The comics sound very fanboyish. I hope they get a lot of that stuff out of the way before the new movie. This sounds like all the stuff they are trying to get away from in the new movie.

Quite true, and it's one of the marketing virtues of this kind of merchandising - they can play up elements that they think will better satisfy a narrow slice of the potential movie audience without annoying the other paying customers. ;)
 
The comics sound very fanboyish. I hope they get a lot of that stuff out of the way before the new movie. This sounds like all the stuff they are trying to get away from in the new movie.

Quite true, and it's one of the marketing virtues of this kind of merchandising - they can play up elements that they think will better satisfy a narrow slice of the potential movie audience without annoying the other paying customers. ;)

It's also a bit unfair to the fanboys who buy into it, insofar as it sets up fanboy expectations that will likely not be met by the movie proper.

That said, I say leave that shit out of the movie.
 
It's also a bit unfair to the fanboys who buy into it, insofar as it sets up fanboy expectations that will likely not be met by the movie proper.

Many Trek fanboys will probably be shocked beyond forgiveness if Paramount, for the first time in living memory, fails to deliver on their highest expectations.
 
It's also a bit unfair to the fanboys who buy into it, insofar as it sets up fanboy expectations that will likely not be met by the movie proper.

Many Trek fanboys will probably be shocked beyond forgiveness if Paramount, for the first time in living memory, fails to deliver on their highest expectations.

Good point.

And, in the meantime, I won't be buying the comic books.

But I am grateful to those who re-cap them here.
 
I'm still thinking Kirk is not Nero's target, its Spock after Romulus gets literally burned he goes all nuts or he and his crew are the last survivors of said cataclysm become pirates, get captured by Klingons and then years later break out.

Sharr
 
I'm still thinking Kirk is not Nero's target, its Spock after Romulus gets literally burned he goes all nuts or he and his crew are the last survivors of said cataclysm become pirates, get captured by Klingons and then years later break out.

Sharr

I agree. Something goes wrong with Spock's plan, Nero blames him for it, and to get revenge, he goes back in time and starts killing and destroying everything Spock held dear, Kirk, his parents, Vulcan, etc.
 
It's also a bit unfair to the fanboys who buy into it, insofar as it sets up fanboy expectations that will likely not be met by the movie proper.

Many Trek fanboys will probably be shocked beyond forgiveness if Paramount, for the first time in living memory, fails to deliver on their highest expectations.

Good point.

And, in the meantime, I won't be buying the comic books.

Nor will I. I don't recall ever having seen the Donner "Superman" comics, either. It's astonishing, the extent to which my interest in movies doesn't extend to the merchandising - the occasional Trek toy and a set of Quantum Mechanix "Serenity" blueprints being real exceptions. :)
 
I'm still thinking Kirk is not Nero's target, its Spock after Romulus gets literally burned he goes all nuts or he and his crew are the last survivors of said cataclysm become pirates, get captured by Klingons and then years later break out.

Sharr

I agree. Something goes wrong with Spock's plan, Nero blames him for it, and to get revenge, he goes back in time and starts killing and destroying everything Spock held dear, Kirk, his parents, Vulcan, etc.

I don't know...Maybe it's not a single person that causes Nero's wrath.

I could easily be wrong, but I think that Vulcans in the end somehow refuse or fail to help Spock and Nero save the Romulans.
And therefore Nero blames Vulcans and sets out to destroy them just like they let Romulus die.

Kirk, Spock and the rest are just in the way... trying to stop him.
 
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