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I guess we should expect an ENT sequel series soonish...
Why? Those numbers are an argument against a sequel series, the first season generated a lot of interest and then half the audience abandoned it. While TNG and Voyager also lost parts of their audience Enterprise lost more faster.

I think it's more likely they do something with DS9 eventually, the numbers are lower but also pretty consistent over all 7 seasons, that means they have a pretty good idea how big the interest is and can budget accordingly.
 
Seeing Enterprise Season 1 at the top of this list is shocking to me. Of all the series, I've felt like Enterprise has been the one that people forget, even though the references we have gotten in Lower Decks and then the SNW Crossover have been really welcome.
 
New watchers will try the newest of the finished shows first - or the chronologically first one in universe:shrug:
 
New watchers will try the newest of the finished shows first - or the chronologically first one in universe:shrug:
Of the old shows, ENT is the only one to start in this century. So I can see it. It makes sense to me. As soon as Average Joe is looking for a show to watch and they see 19__, they think, "That's too old! I don't want to watch that!" Could be 19-anything. I think it's psychological.

The quick drop-off makes sense too. Personally, I think most of it was dull. Especially Season 2, which I think lived "up" to its reputation. I don't like Season 3, it's not to my tastes, but I can still recognize it as being better than Season 2. Even with Season 3, though, I think it feeling so much of the Bush Era really dates it.
 
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Of the old shows, ENT is the only one to start in this century. So I can see it. It makes sense to me. As soon as Average Joe is looking for a show to watch and they see 19__, they think, "That's too old! I don't want to watch that!" Could be 19-anything. I think it's psychological.
TNG really lucked out that only season 1 really screams "the 80's". And sure, TOS is dated, but at least most of the writing largely holds up. TOS film wise, TWOK through TFF date a lot less than you'd think being filmed when they were. I rewatched TVH two weeks ago and was surprised how restrained it was in not screaming the mid 80's.

The quick drop-off makes sense too. Personally, I think most of it was dull. Especially Season 2, which I think lived "up" to its reputation. I don't like Season 3, it's not to my tastes, but I can still recognize it as being better than Season 2. Even with Season 3, though, I think it feeling so much of the Bush Era really dates it.
I like ENT more than VGR, but season 2 is just brutal on the rewatch. Almost an amplification of the slog of TNG season 7.

At least ENT season 3 is mostly subtext. My favorite comedy of all time is ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT, but it just kills me on the rewatch having so much of that show's second season reference the Iraq War. Otherwise, time has "slowed down" a lot since the late 1990's. Look at say THE WIRE or THE SHIELD... those started 20 years ago, but aside from the more edgier aspects that couldn't be made today, both hold up incredibly well and barely date.
 
I don't think this is too far off the mark. Not only was it semi-serialized from the beginning with all of the Bajoran political stuff but the seasons were long -- those two factors may make it seem more difficult to get into cold. While most of the Bajoran stuff was new to DS9, I could also see how the uninitiated might think that there's necessary background material in TNG that they need to watch first.
I watched "Emissary" when it premiered in 1993, then stopped watching DS9 until after TNG ended. I started watching again beginning with "The Search, Part I", stuck with it until the end, and was eventually able to watch the first two seasons in '96-'97, after DS9 had enough episodes to be shown late every night.

At first, during the third season, I found that they were referring back to a bunch of stuff that originated in DS9, that I wasn't familiar with (and this was still before I had the Internet), but I was able to piece together what I needed to know. Though someone else might've been like, "This is too much!" That's what I meant.

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Here's a real life example of what can go wrong when someone jumps ahead. At one point, in 1997, my uncle came into the living room while I was watching "Call to Arms" of all things! Kept asking me questions (which started pissing me off, but I kept it to myself), then I told him, "You need to have watched the last three years of DS9 in order to understand this." Then he said, "I can start watching from the original series." (I think he just wanted to watch Kirk, he used to watch TOS when he was a kid... ) I told him watching TOS wouldn't help him to understand DS9. Then my mother chimed in and said if anything would help him to understand DS9 better it would be TNG. (Reinforcing the notion of "You have to watch TNG!" right there.)

So that was my own experience having to deal a Non-Trekkie approaching DS9. Eventually I did show my uncle all of DS9 from the beginning, and he managed to get hooked. He'd seen next-to-no TNG. (Though, after Worf showed up, I did get him to watch "Sins of the Father", "Reunion", and "Redemption").

He was a walking, talking stereotype of an angry TOS Fan who hated the very concept of TNG, so there was no way I'd have ever been able to get him to watch that. Yet somehow he didn't mind Patrick Stewart in X-Men, but anyway... He wouldn't watch VOY either because he thought, and this is an exact quote, "The Captain has to be a man!"

Yeah. That's what I had to deal with.
 
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Curious how Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance never showed up on that list - or, at least, not that I could find. It was nominated for a bunch of awards in 2020 and even won a few. It was generally well received by fans & critics alike, earning an 8.6 out of 10 fresh rating on Rotten Tomatoes, 8.4 out of 10 on IMDB, 82% on Metacritic and RogerEbert.com said it "Ranks Among the All-Time Great Fantasy Epics". Its omission from the final list is a bit head-scratching, to say the least. Did I miss something?
 
Curious how Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance never showed up on that list - or, at least, not that I could find. It was nominated for a bunch of awards in 2020 and even won a few. It was generally well received by fans & critics alike, earning an 8.6 out of 10 fresh rating on Rotten Tomatoes, 8.4 out of 10 on IMDB, 82% on Metacritic and RogerEbert.com said it "Ranks Among the All-Time Great Fantasy Epics". Its omission from the final list is a bit head-scratching, to say the least. Did I miss something?
The list only covers viewing for the first half of 2023.

I've never even heard of that show... looks like it came out in 2019.
 
Curious how Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance never showed up on that list - or, at least, not that I could find. It was nominated for a bunch of awards in 2020 and even won a few. It was generally well received by fans & critics alike, earning an 8.6 out of 10 fresh rating on Rotten Tomatoes, 8.4 out of 10 on IMDB, 82% on Metacritic and RogerEbert.com said it "Ranks Among the All-Time Great Fantasy Epics". Its omission from the final list is a bit head-scratching, to say the least. Did I miss something?
It’s on the list, line 4776, 3.1M hours.

Perhaps your Excel skills are rusty.
 
Huh... The one I saw was the original PDF and didn't find it after doing global search. Okay, glad it's there... somewhere... :lol:
 
I’m surprised by many things. Mainly by ENT’s high placement, DS9’s being in the middle, and the Kelvinverse movie barely getting any viewership. The latter one especially, since it was once seen as ENT done right, and now viewership numbers (or more accurately, its lack thereof) would strongly disagree with that.
 
I’m surprised by many things. Mainly by ENT’s high placement, DS9’s being in the middle, and the Kelvinverse movie barely getting any viewership. The latter one especially, since it was once seen as ENT done right, and now viewership numbers (or more accurately, its lack thereof) would strongly disagree with that.
Keep in mind that a movie is 2 hours and a season of television back then was 24ish hours, so movie numbers are going to be lower in general even tho the 2009 and Into Darkness numbers are shit.
 
I would be just a curious to see Netflix's related data to Star Trek searches. I would occasionally peruse Netflix's database for Star Trek content, but rarely would find what I actually wanted, so would go back to DVD or another service.
 
I’m surprised by many things. Mainly by ENT’s high placement, DS9’s being in the middle, and the Kelvinverse movie barely getting any viewership. The latter one especially, since it was once seen as ENT done right, and now viewership numbers (or more accurately, its lack thereof) would strongly disagree with that.
I'm kind of starting to wonder if the algorithm they used to build these figures had a bug in it. :eek:
Like I mentioned above we don't have enough data about availability to fully understand the viewing figures. Maybe the Kelvinverse movies were only included for two weeks in three countries, etc... The raw numbers really only allow us to compare worldwide releases of Netflix exclusives because then there isn't any alternative streaming service weirdness fo consider, and even then stuff released in Nov/Dec of 2022 will score higher than things released in April 2023 or January 2020, because the shows are relatively new and available for the full six months.

The percentage of hours watched vs. subscriptions where a show is available would be way more useful, but it seems Netflix still wants to keep that closer to their vest.
 
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