Trek movies..1-10
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The Undiscovered Country
The Wrath of Khan
The Voyage Home
First Contact
The Motion Picture
Insurrection
The Search for Spock
The Final Frontier
Generations
Nemesis
The Wrath of Khan
The Voyage Home
First Contact
The Motion Picture
Insurrection
The Search for Spock
The Final Frontier
Generations
Nemesis
Good Will Riker
Admiral
He probably went with the TV edit of Generations, because he never got around to watching the proper version in the theatres or on home video.
First Contact
The Undiscovered Country
The Voyage Home
The Wrath of Kahn
Generations
Nemesis
The Search for Spock
Insurrection
The Final Frontier
The Motion Picture
The Undiscovered Country
The Voyage Home
The Wrath of Kahn
Generations
Nemesis
The Search for Spock
Insurrection
The Final Frontier
The Motion Picture
1. The Motion Picture: Yes, it's seriously flawed. But it's the closest a Trek film got to exploring space, not just blowing stuff up. I love the themes of the purpose of imperfection, the limits of logic and knowledge, and the desire for easy answers in the divine. It seemed fitting that in the first Trek film, the crew would get a glimpse of humanities destiny.
2. The Wrath of Khan: Great drama. Kirk loses his best friend, gains a son, and learns to enjoy every minute of life, no matter how many have come before, or how many are left. And the Mutara Nebula battle is still my favorite from the Trek films. The scenes on and outside of the ships are equally tense and exciting.
3. The Undiscovered Country: Nice send off for the original crew. Humanities maturation never ends. We may grow beyond our internal conflicts, but we still have to grow with the rest of the universe. No matter what you have achieved, you still have a long road ahead toward true perfection, and enlightenment. So the adventure may never end.
4. The Search for Spock: If it wasn't so sad, this would be an adventurous romp. After saving the universe for 20 years, the crew says f-you to Starfleet after being told to not save their friend. But miracles come with a price.
5. The Voyage Home: A nice, fun change of pace after the death of Spock, death of Kirk's son, destruction of the Enterprise, and the crew becoming outlaws. They can keep the Greenpeace message, but leave the culture clash humor.
6. Nemesis: The Next Gen crew finally faces an interesting, and scary villian in a film. An angry young man, stuck between worlds, trying to become someone on his own, instead of having an identity forced apon him by others. Data is no longer the naive robot-child grasping for some understanding of humanity. He's a confident friend helping with advice, and ultimately sacrifice. The rest of the crews role in the film range from adequate (Picard), padding (The Rikers), or irrelevent (everyone else.) And the overall story makes a decent February sweeps two-parter, but not the finale of a film franchise.
7. First Contact: If you take this movie apart, some of the bits and pieces are enjoyable by themselves. But as a whole, this is a mess. It's designed backward. It's most tense at the beginning, and quickly loses steam, dragging to an underwhelming halt. The film starts with word of an unstoppable force heading toward the Federation. That force turns out to be one Borg cube. Yep, that's never been defeated before. How long does it take the Enterprise to destroy that cube, 20 seconds. The cube launches a smaller craft that rewrites history in favor of the Borg. How long does this alternate history exist, 20 seconds. And what does the majority of this film turn into, "Starship Mine." The first shipbound confrontation with the Borg is frightening, disorienting, and claustrophobic. But they become increasing slugging, leading up to the slow-motion button pushing session on the soundstage...oops, I mean deflector dish. And the logic is just perfect in these characters. Zefram Cochrane is building a warp ship to make money in a world that has been crippled by a third World War. Yes, the idea of a hero not being what we thought he was can be entertaining, but it makes no sense in this context. And since when do the Borg need a counterpart to bridge some gap across the civilizations. What happened to "your culture will adapt to service us," not we want to understand you better so you'll like us a little bit more. Just impose your imagined superiority on humanity, take what you find useful, and discard the rest. Nice Barclay cameo, though.
8. The Final Frontier: To be fair, this movie should be last on my list. The only way I can give a few extra points, is by viewing most of the film as a dream Captain Kirk is having, that showcases his ego, and his friendships. I love the line, "What does God need with a starship?" But nothing can be taken seriously in this movie. Spock has a magical half-brother out of nowhere. Everyone on the Enterprise and in a small colony are weak-minded sheep, except for Kirk. The Enterprise has 21, no 60, no 80 decks, and can travel to the center of the galaxy, which is an oil stain, like it's right next door.
9. Generations: I'm still waiting for the movie described in the trailer. Two generations didn't come together to save the universe as was promoted. A wimpy captain put together a half-assed plan to save a bunch of faceless aliens from a well spoken, but ultimately stock villian. Yes, the star destroying weapon adds a little danger to the story, but it begins and ends in a 15 minute span. Picard's acceptance of mortality is nicely handled, but Kirk's is better in "Khan." And the less said about the death of Kirk, and the destruction of the Enterprise-D the better.
10. Insurrection: Let me get this straight. It's better for 600 freeloading, self-righteous snobs to live forever in a stagnant , pre-industrial state than for billions of evolving space explorers to receive the best medical care the universe offers? Are you serious? I understand the basic message of not sacrificing your core beliefs in the face of great danger. Can this rule be applied to every scenario, especially this one? NO! Plus, it would have been nice to see the Enterprise crew versus the Federation. But that's not what happened! We got the Enterprise crew versus a bunch of thugs who had a Starfleet Admiral provide a little support. Boob jokes, pimples, head injuries, hormones, annoying brats, singing, dancing, is this a "Star Trek" movies, or one of those pop-culture parody films that won't go away.
2. The Wrath of Khan: Great drama. Kirk loses his best friend, gains a son, and learns to enjoy every minute of life, no matter how many have come before, or how many are left. And the Mutara Nebula battle is still my favorite from the Trek films. The scenes on and outside of the ships are equally tense and exciting.
3. The Undiscovered Country: Nice send off for the original crew. Humanities maturation never ends. We may grow beyond our internal conflicts, but we still have to grow with the rest of the universe. No matter what you have achieved, you still have a long road ahead toward true perfection, and enlightenment. So the adventure may never end.
4. The Search for Spock: If it wasn't so sad, this would be an adventurous romp. After saving the universe for 20 years, the crew says f-you to Starfleet after being told to not save their friend. But miracles come with a price.
5. The Voyage Home: A nice, fun change of pace after the death of Spock, death of Kirk's son, destruction of the Enterprise, and the crew becoming outlaws. They can keep the Greenpeace message, but leave the culture clash humor.
6. Nemesis: The Next Gen crew finally faces an interesting, and scary villian in a film. An angry young man, stuck between worlds, trying to become someone on his own, instead of having an identity forced apon him by others. Data is no longer the naive robot-child grasping for some understanding of humanity. He's a confident friend helping with advice, and ultimately sacrifice. The rest of the crews role in the film range from adequate (Picard), padding (The Rikers), or irrelevent (everyone else.) And the overall story makes a decent February sweeps two-parter, but not the finale of a film franchise.
7. First Contact: If you take this movie apart, some of the bits and pieces are enjoyable by themselves. But as a whole, this is a mess. It's designed backward. It's most tense at the beginning, and quickly loses steam, dragging to an underwhelming halt. The film starts with word of an unstoppable force heading toward the Federation. That force turns out to be one Borg cube. Yep, that's never been defeated before. How long does it take the Enterprise to destroy that cube, 20 seconds. The cube launches a smaller craft that rewrites history in favor of the Borg. How long does this alternate history exist, 20 seconds. And what does the majority of this film turn into, "Starship Mine." The first shipbound confrontation with the Borg is frightening, disorienting, and claustrophobic. But they become increasing slugging, leading up to the slow-motion button pushing session on the soundstage...oops, I mean deflector dish. And the logic is just perfect in these characters. Zefram Cochrane is building a warp ship to make money in a world that has been crippled by a third World War. Yes, the idea of a hero not being what we thought he was can be entertaining, but it makes no sense in this context. And since when do the Borg need a counterpart to bridge some gap across the civilizations. What happened to "your culture will adapt to service us," not we want to understand you better so you'll like us a little bit more. Just impose your imagined superiority on humanity, take what you find useful, and discard the rest. Nice Barclay cameo, though.
8. The Final Frontier: To be fair, this movie should be last on my list. The only way I can give a few extra points, is by viewing most of the film as a dream Captain Kirk is having, that showcases his ego, and his friendships. I love the line, "What does God need with a starship?" But nothing can be taken seriously in this movie. Spock has a magical half-brother out of nowhere. Everyone on the Enterprise and in a small colony are weak-minded sheep, except for Kirk. The Enterprise has 21, no 60, no 80 decks, and can travel to the center of the galaxy, which is an oil stain, like it's right next door.
9. Generations: I'm still waiting for the movie described in the trailer. Two generations didn't come together to save the universe as was promoted. A wimpy captain put together a half-assed plan to save a bunch of faceless aliens from a well spoken, but ultimately stock villian. Yes, the star destroying weapon adds a little danger to the story, but it begins and ends in a 15 minute span. Picard's acceptance of mortality is nicely handled, but Kirk's is better in "Khan." And the less said about the death of Kirk, and the destruction of the Enterprise-D the better.
10. Insurrection: Let me get this straight. It's better for 600 freeloading, self-righteous snobs to live forever in a stagnant , pre-industrial state than for billions of evolving space explorers to receive the best medical care the universe offers? Are you serious? I understand the basic message of not sacrificing your core beliefs in the face of great danger. Can this rule be applied to every scenario, especially this one? NO! Plus, it would have been nice to see the Enterprise crew versus the Federation. But that's not what happened! We got the Enterprise crew versus a bunch of thugs who had a Starfleet Admiral provide a little support. Boob jokes, pimples, head injuries, hormones, annoying brats, singing, dancing, is this a "Star Trek" movies, or one of those pop-culture parody films that won't go away.
And you know this how...?
I'm genuinely curious as to Cicero's reasoning in part because I've never seen Generations on TV. Apart from the expected bleeping/overdubbing of Data's "Oh, shit!" I can't imagine what changes would have been made.
The Motion Picture - Hard sci-fi and a unique look propel this to the top of my list. Only The Cage is better in terms of Star Trek.
The Undiscovered Country - The final voyage of the Starship Enterprise. Interstellar glasnost goes awry and only Kirk and crew can save the day.
The Search for Spock - Stealing and destroying the Enterprise, this had much more of an impact on me than the death of Spock. Christopher Lloyd hams it up as Kruge... and that's a good thing.
Generations - First two-thirds of this movie were great, final third makes it slide way down the list.
The Final Frontier - A victim of the success that was The Voyage Home. Somewhere deep down inside was a great movie. But the studio's insistence of humor and William Shatners' lack of ability behind the camera made sure it stayed buried. Plus, woeful special effects work. Still not sure why Paramount was so cheap when producing this film. They often seem like their own worst enemy.
The Voyage Home - Yeah, we're destroying ourselves... I get it. Wish this film would've taken its' subject matter more seriously. 'Save the Whales'.
The Wrath of Khan - Jim Kirk's getting old and two mistakes from his past pop-up. The more formal military look introduced here just doesn't work for me. Though the eye candy battles between the Enterprise and the Reliant sure are sweet.
First Contact - Way to destroy the Borg!!! The planet side elements were interesting. Not much else. Plus, it introduces the god-awful Enterprise-E.
Insurrection - I'm still waiting for the original script to be filmed. What made it to film was just terrible. Flying a starship with a joystick... ok.
Nemesis - Another one with a great story buried someplace deep inside. Execution was horrid... makes Insurrection look like The Motion Picture.
The Undiscovered Country - The final voyage of the Starship Enterprise. Interstellar glasnost goes awry and only Kirk and crew can save the day.
The Search for Spock - Stealing and destroying the Enterprise, this had much more of an impact on me than the death of Spock. Christopher Lloyd hams it up as Kruge... and that's a good thing.
Generations - First two-thirds of this movie were great, final third makes it slide way down the list.
The Final Frontier - A victim of the success that was The Voyage Home. Somewhere deep down inside was a great movie. But the studio's insistence of humor and William Shatners' lack of ability behind the camera made sure it stayed buried. Plus, woeful special effects work. Still not sure why Paramount was so cheap when producing this film. They often seem like their own worst enemy.
The Voyage Home - Yeah, we're destroying ourselves... I get it. Wish this film would've taken its' subject matter more seriously. 'Save the Whales'.
The Wrath of Khan - Jim Kirk's getting old and two mistakes from his past pop-up. The more formal military look introduced here just doesn't work for me. Though the eye candy battles between the Enterprise and the Reliant sure are sweet.
First Contact - Way to destroy the Borg!!! The planet side elements were interesting. Not much else. Plus, it introduces the god-awful Enterprise-E.
Insurrection - I'm still waiting for the original script to be filmed. What made it to film was just terrible. Flying a starship with a joystick... ok.
Nemesis - Another one with a great story buried someplace deep inside. Execution was horrid... makes Insurrection look like The Motion Picture.
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1. The Undiscovered Country - I just love this one, it's big and political while at the same time deeply personal. Good guest actors, great action and adventure (Rura Penthe) and a solid theme make this one the finest Trek film for me, just edging out Wrath. 4.5/5
2. The Wrath of Khan - What to say about this, it's awesome. A revenge film, submarine-like starship battles, with stakes being high and personal. Just flawless. 4.5/5
3. First Contact - The first Trek I saw at the theater and it blew me away. What this film lacks in substance it makes up with some great scifi-action. The film's pacing is excellent and it delivers the goods. Twelve years later FC still looks fresh and modern. 4/5
4. The Voyage Home - Generally I like my Trek a bit darker and serious in tone, and over the years this one had ended up on the lower half of my list, but when I watched it again recently I discovered just how FUN it is. Full of nice character moments and comraderie. 4/5
5. The Motion Picture - The most impressive looking Trek film, thanks to auteur Robert Wise. This one appeals more to the lover of late '60s/'70s heavyhanded sci-fi cinema than the Trek fan in me. It's a powerhouse of a picture, but there's no room to breathe and the swashbuckling fun of TOS was sorely missing. 3.5/5
6. The Search For Spock - This is a fine little Trek film, seems something of a short transitional film between the superior WoK and TVH, but it's a little gem, again focussing on the great sense of comraderie that existed between the TOS crew in the movies. The TNG films never evoked that at all. 3/5
7. Nemesis - I somewhat understand why people hate this, but I've always been much more positive about it. Granted NEM is flawed, with a director who didn't really understand Trek and cut out the best scene of the film. However, contrary to GEN and INS this actually feels like a motion picture, the space battle is excellent and I for one thought the 'dark mirror image' theme was interesting. 3/5
8. Generations - Not terrible, but plagued by a shaky concept and some very unfortunate choices. It promises much but fails to deliver. Malcolm McDowell rocks as Soran though. 2.5/5
9. Insurrection - Would have been a nice two-parter but after the impressive FC this was a real disappointment. What works for the series doesn't always work at the theater. While in FC the entire human race was in danger, now we're supposed to care about a couple of boring hippies we'll never see again after this film. Too light, too small in scale and full of infantile jokes. 2/5
10. The Final Frontier - By all means this is a terrible film, both as a Trek picture and cinema in general. Totally inept, only a couple of decent character moments save this from being a total turd. Even so it's irritating, stupid, and ugly to look at. The only one I'd rather skip when I work through the entire franchise. 1.5/5
2. The Wrath of Khan - What to say about this, it's awesome. A revenge film, submarine-like starship battles, with stakes being high and personal. Just flawless. 4.5/5
3. First Contact - The first Trek I saw at the theater and it blew me away. What this film lacks in substance it makes up with some great scifi-action. The film's pacing is excellent and it delivers the goods. Twelve years later FC still looks fresh and modern. 4/5
4. The Voyage Home - Generally I like my Trek a bit darker and serious in tone, and over the years this one had ended up on the lower half of my list, but when I watched it again recently I discovered just how FUN it is. Full of nice character moments and comraderie. 4/5
5. The Motion Picture - The most impressive looking Trek film, thanks to auteur Robert Wise. This one appeals more to the lover of late '60s/'70s heavyhanded sci-fi cinema than the Trek fan in me. It's a powerhouse of a picture, but there's no room to breathe and the swashbuckling fun of TOS was sorely missing. 3.5/5
6. The Search For Spock - This is a fine little Trek film, seems something of a short transitional film between the superior WoK and TVH, but it's a little gem, again focussing on the great sense of comraderie that existed between the TOS crew in the movies. The TNG films never evoked that at all. 3/5
7. Nemesis - I somewhat understand why people hate this, but I've always been much more positive about it. Granted NEM is flawed, with a director who didn't really understand Trek and cut out the best scene of the film. However, contrary to GEN and INS this actually feels like a motion picture, the space battle is excellent and I for one thought the 'dark mirror image' theme was interesting. 3/5
8. Generations - Not terrible, but plagued by a shaky concept and some very unfortunate choices. It promises much but fails to deliver. Malcolm McDowell rocks as Soran though. 2.5/5
9. Insurrection - Would have been a nice two-parter but after the impressive FC this was a real disappointment. What works for the series doesn't always work at the theater. While in FC the entire human race was in danger, now we're supposed to care about a couple of boring hippies we'll never see again after this film. Too light, too small in scale and full of infantile jokes. 2/5
10. The Final Frontier - By all means this is a terrible film, both as a Trek picture and cinema in general. Totally inept, only a couple of decent character moments save this from being a total turd. Even so it's irritating, stupid, and ugly to look at. The only one I'd rather skip when I work through the entire franchise. 1.5/5
Great: no Trek movie deserve being labeled as great
Very Good: The Motion Picture
Good: The Wrath of Khan
Okey: First Contact, The Undiscovered Country,
Not Good: The Search For Spock, The Voyage Home,Generations,
Awful: The Final Frontier, Nemesis & Insurrection
Very Good: The Motion Picture
Good: The Wrath of Khan
Okey: First Contact, The Undiscovered Country,
Not Good: The Search For Spock, The Voyage Home,Generations,
Awful: The Final Frontier, Nemesis & Insurrection
First Contact
The Wrath Of Khan
The Voyage Home
The Undiscovered Country
Nemesis
Generations
Insurrection
The Search For Spock
The Motion Picture
The Final Frontier
The Wrath Of Khan
The Voyage Home
The Undiscovered Country
Nemesis
Generations
Insurrection
The Search For Spock
The Motion Picture
The Final Frontier
Generations- flawed like any trek film but great theme, and to me the official big screen end of TNG everyone knew.
First Contact- The Borg, good amount of action and kept close to the series
Star Trek IV- good story and meaning meaning behind the movie.
Nemesis- Decent film, just happened to be the last TNG film
Insurrection- decent film, just happened to be killed be the odd number curse and should of used Romulans or the Dominion as a villian would have changed the dynamic of the film
ST VI- Great ending for TOS films, great action and good way to fill gap between TNG and TOS films.
ST II- Good film Good vs Evil, imo these to be overrated at time, and is the curse of trek films since so many have tried to copy it or use it as a standard; which is wrong. Each film is a story upon itself and shouldn't need to be compared to a previous film
TMP- Good idea, stylish but is killed by long shot, and pacing. Movie moves to slow.
ST III- Makes Spock death seem like a joke imo I'll put my memory in Bones and have an blank slate Spock on planet Genesis. If a character like spock or Data kills himself to save others don't be them back kills the purpose of the action itself. And If there was a data version I would say the same thing- B4 doesn't count.
ST V- Star Trek V, Trek meets God, Come on.
First Contact- The Borg, good amount of action and kept close to the series
Star Trek IV- good story and meaning meaning behind the movie.
Nemesis- Decent film, just happened to be the last TNG film
Insurrection- decent film, just happened to be killed be the odd number curse and should of used Romulans or the Dominion as a villian would have changed the dynamic of the film
ST VI- Great ending for TOS films, great action and good way to fill gap between TNG and TOS films.
ST II- Good film Good vs Evil, imo these to be overrated at time, and is the curse of trek films since so many have tried to copy it or use it as a standard; which is wrong. Each film is a story upon itself and shouldn't need to be compared to a previous film
TMP- Good idea, stylish but is killed by long shot, and pacing. Movie moves to slow.
ST III- Makes Spock death seem like a joke imo I'll put my memory in Bones and have an blank slate Spock on planet Genesis. If a character like spock or Data kills himself to save others don't be them back kills the purpose of the action itself. And If there was a data version I would say the same thing- B4 doesn't count.
ST V- Star Trek V, Trek meets God, Come on.
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (****)
Star Trek: First Contact (****)
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country (***1/2)
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home (***1/2)
Star Trek III: The Search for Spock (***)
Star Trek: Generations (**1/2)
Star Trek: Insurrection (**1/2)
Star Trek: The Motion Picture (**1/2)
Star Trek: Nemesis (**1/2)
Star Trek V: The Final Frontier (**)
Star Trek: First Contact (****)
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country (***1/2)
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home (***1/2)
Star Trek III: The Search for Spock (***)
Star Trek: Generations (**1/2)
Star Trek: Insurrection (**1/2)
Star Trek: The Motion Picture (**1/2)
Star Trek: Nemesis (**1/2)
Star Trek V: The Final Frontier (**)
The TV edit removed much of the Data-centric attempts at humor. For instance, as the saucer section tilts toward the planet, the camera tracks toward Data, but cuts away just before he utters an expletive in the theatrical cut. The tone of the movie is much improved by limited humor to only scenes meant to be generally humorous.
Episode V
Episode I (would be 1st without Jake Lloyd)
Episode VI (without Ewoks; easy on DVD)
Episode III
Episode II
Episode IV
Episode VI (with Ewoks)
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