Trek guest actors in maybe surprising roles

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  1. Christopher

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    In "Friday's Child" and "The Trouble With Tribbles," makeup artist Fred Phillips forgot how he'd made up the Klingons in "Errand of Mercy," with greenish-brown pancake makeup and trifurcated eyebrows, so he just put beards on them and that was about it. The original makeup returned in "A Private Little War" and throughout season 3 (though they slathered on the pancake extra-thick in "Day of the Dove").
     
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    I never really equated it with the makeup...just that he was the most underwhelming TOS Klingon who had that major a role, coming in a disappointing fourth to the "Big Three".

    Having since seen more of him in The Mod Squad, I'm a little more forgiving of his turn as Kras.
     
  3. Christopher

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    Hmm, yeah, I guess those were the only four sizeable Klingon roles. Krell from "A Private Little War" was only in that one sequence; the ship commander in "Elaan of Troyius" just showed up on the viewscreen a couple of times; and "Kahless" in "The Savage Curtain" was, well, I have to say it, forgettable.
     
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    Kang (Michael Ansara with toupee) partnered with Kras (Tige Andrews) on the current episode of 'The Mod Squad' on Decades TV's tribute to Peggy Lipton.
     
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    I hadn't even been thinking of Kahless, so now that you mention it.... :lol: He did spend that episode playing second banana to Colonel Green.
     
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    Somebody here coined the "Bob the discount Klingon" phrase - can't remember who. But I laughed so hard that I had to steal it. I think it was also based on the fact that he wasn't called by name onscreen at all, so we didn't know what to call him until somebody found out he had a name in the script.
     
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    Though I would be willing to bet that Michael Pataki in "Tribbles" and Susan Howard in "Day of the Dove" had more lines than Ned Romero in "A Private Little War."
     
  8. Christopher

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    Yes, considerably. According to Chakoteya's transcript site, Krell had only 6 distinct lines (although some consisted of several consecutive sentences). Even Kor's nameless lieutenant in "Errand of Mercy" (Victor Lundin) had more than twice that, and nearly as many lines as Korax. Mara had the largest part of any supporting Klingon, about twice as many lines as Korax.

    I guess I should've specified that the "Big Three" and Kras were the only four sizeable "lead" Klingon roles in their respective episodes.
     
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    How do Kahless's lines stack up by comparison?
     
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    Nine distinct lines, counting his impersonations of Surak and Lincoln. The rest are mostly answering Col. Green's questions.
     
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    Yeah, just before I came back to this I found myself trying to remember if he had any lines other than the voice imitations.

    I don't discount (pardon the expression in this context) Kahless as a "real" Klingon in principle, because there was a missed opportunity to use him to give us some early tidbits about Klingon history and culture, if anyone involved had been inclined, in which case we wouldn't find him so easy to dismiss. Instead we learned that he was probably really popular at parties.
     
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    Which is important in a leader.;)
     
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    He did a killer Cagney. “You dirty rat … you killed my loDnI'.”
     
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    He also had so much less stage presence than Kor and Kang that he suffers in comparison. Hence, Bob the Discount Klingon.
     
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    Don Keefer, Ed Peck in 747, an episode of The Incredible Hulk!
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    William Marshall (with Edric Connor again) in The Galloping Major, an episode of Danger Man!
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    I'm watching True Grit right now. Kim Darby's hiring John Wayne to go after Jeff Corey, and Glen Campbell wants to tag along.
     
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    And Alfred Ryder as a defense attorney. Duke doesn’t much care for him: too pure and noble. Wins all the arguments.
     
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    And John Fiedler pops up at the end as Darby's oft-referenced attorney.
     
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    Looking over True Grit on IMDb, I see that Ron Soble was also in it.