Trek 4 to bring together Chris Pine & Hemsworth?

[gerbil]

I hope Paramount just jumps on the Star Trek bandwagon and treats it like the cash cow it should be. Like, making Discovery is great (CBS, of course). I don't understand why they aren't working to make an animated miniseries that's direct to home video/Netflix. I highly doubt Discovery is going to bring in a lot of new viewers meanwhile Paramount is sitting in a prime position (no pun intended) to use the Kelvin timeline.

If I had been Paramount, I would have been pushing merchandising deals and pumping Beyond up as a return to Star Trek like SW:TFA.

I keep saying it but they need stuff out there to pump up their younger fan base and entertain the old.

Edit: To actually make my point about ST4, they need to put butts in seats. This summer was packed full of big blockbuster tent pole franchise movies and few of them performed as well as hoped but still performed. Paramount should be getting people's eyes on Star Trek any way they can and it blows me away that they're not.

I think they need to give it a decent budget and go all out.

 

[F. King Daniel]

I think the CBS/Paramount agreement stipulates that CBS make TV Trek and Paramount cinematic. They're not allowed to cross into each other's realms.

 

[The Wormhole]

I don't understand why they aren't working to make an animated miniseries that's direct to home video/Netflix.

Paramount can only make Star Trek movies. An animated miniseries would have to be done by CBS or someone they license to do it.

 

[Lance]

Yeah, the problem is that when the owners got divvied up a few years ago, it created a legal minefield. IIRC even things as innocuous as merchandising are split down the middle, with anything to do with the Trek movies having to be negotiated separately to the TV shows and vice versa.

I agree with the comment above that within themselves Paramount hasn't done enough to promote the movies, merchandise them etc, and that is a failing. STAR TREK 2009 had such a buzz and momentum behind it but they dropped the ball and by the time STID appeared four years later the casual/younger audience who'd really gotten into the 2009 movie had all moved on. They needed to capitalize on it while the iron was still hot and they didn't, hence the diminishing returns on the sequels.

 

[eyeresist]

George Kirk on the Kelvin meets James T. Kirk on the Enterprise. Maybe, it will be a retelling of "Yesterday's Enterprise" as "Yesterday's Kelvin".

I'm predicting more a retelling of Generations.

 

[Visitor1982]

Personally, I think Star Trek XIV might be put on hold for a long time.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Never say never in Hollywood. Even if they cancel ST4 now, give it 30 years and they may reunite the cast for a rebooted STVI. Think I'm talking crazy? How many of you ever expected to see more Indiana Jones or Star Wars with Harrison Ford, or a new direct sequel to Aliens starring Sigourney Weaver?

 

[donners22]

Personally, I think Star Trek XIV might be put on hold for a long time.

If it's not made soon and with this cast, I doubt it ever will be unless a TV series is an absolute breakout hit.

 

[Visitor1982]

I'm sure there will be more Star Trek movies in the future, but perhaps not in the near future and not with this cast and production team.

We'll see.

 

[Khan 2.0]

Never say never in Hollywood. Even if they cancel ST4 now, give it 30 years and they may reunite the cast for a rebooted STVI. Think I'm talking crazy? How many of you ever expected to see more Indiana Jones or Star Wars with Harrison Ford, or a new direct sequel to Aliens starring Sigourney Weaver?

Or maybe 15 years for yet another Wrath of Khan lol

 

[gerbil]

Paramount can only make Star Trek movies. An animated miniseries would have to be done by CBS or someone they license to do it.

I understand that this is the case but I'd hope Paramount has some options they could exercise. Even if they don't, I feel as though CBS and Paramount's parent company should tell them to play nice since it's in both of their interests.

I take this kinda thing personally because, if you look at Star Wars, there are generations of people who want to pass these experiences on to their kids and I think Lucasfilm and Disney fundamentally understand that. I don'tthink Paramount and CBS have people at the helm who undertand that Star Trek is the same way.

 

[mattman8907]

they already greenlit the movie before the movie came out, the only reason it did lousy box office wise was because they decided to release it the week of comic-con.

 

[wayoung]

they already greenlit the movie before the movie came out

Every franchise has a sequel "greenlit" before the current movie is released. Even Fan4stic. It's a marketing ploy. It's meaningless.

I believe a sequel will happen, Paramount doesn't have many viable franchise's, but unless the sequel is filmed simultaneously the above pronouncements should be ignored by the public, just like they are by the studio execs.

the only reason it did lousy box office wise was because they decided to release it the week of comic-con.

...That's a ridiculous assertion.

 

[gerbil]

...That's a ridiculous assertion.

Not always. Beyond ended up bookended by two major releases getting a ton of publicity at the time. That means competition for 3D and XD theater space. In sight, in mind, though.

 

[wayoung]

Not always. Beyond ended up bookended by two major releases getting a ton of publicity at the time. That means competition for 3D and XD theater space. In sight, in mind, though.

Being released in a crowded summer (imagine the fan complaints if they didn't release the year of the 50th) is a seperate issue from "the movie failed financially because it was released during comiccon". The former is a valid avenue for exploration. The latter is foolish.

135k people attended comic con over four days. An IMAX 3d ticket in San Diego costs $16.50. Assuming every person who went to comiccon was intending on going to Beyond and paying full 3D prices and never went to see it, that's a loss of $2.2 million. That's 3.6% of the opening weekend take. 1.3% of the final domestic take. 0.65% of the total box office income. That's negligible.

 

[gerbil]

Being released in a crowded summer (imagine the fan complaints if they didn't release the year of the 50th) is a seperate issue from "the movie failed financially because it was released during comiccon". The former is a valid avenue for exploration. The latter is foolish.

135k people attended comic con over four days. An IMAX 3d ticket in San Diego costs $16.50. Assuming every person who went to comiccon was intending on going to Beyond and paying full 3D prices and never went to see it, that's a loss of $2.2 million. That's 3.6% of the opening weekend take. 1.3% of the final domestic take. 0.65% of the total box office income. That's negligible.

I took it to mean that ComicCon was in full swing hyping up other movies, distracting from Beyond and/or convincing people to save their disposable income for another movie.

ETA: From my experience people are rationing their movie-going based on high ticket prices so they're weighing opportunity cost as a major factor in their viewing habits.

 

[wayoung]

I took it to mean that ComicCon was in full swing hyping up other movies, distracting from Beyond and/or convincing people to save their disposable income for another movie.

ETA: From my experience people are rationing their movie-going based on high ticket prices so they're weighing opportunity cost as a major factor in their viewing habits.

Rationing due to other movies, sure. That's likely a huge part of it.

I disagree entirely that it's because of movies hyped at comic con. Those movies are months if not years away. They have no impact on same day purchases. Someone seeing the trailer for Justice League isn't going to say "Well, I was going to go see Star Trek tonight, but instead I'm going to save my $15 to see Justice League in 16 months."

This summer had the most big budget tent pole films and reboots /sequels in history whereas people aren't seeing more movies in theatres. Those are present day impacts. Not people saving movie viewing opportunities for a year and a half in advance.

 

[Khan 2.0]

Pine talks Trek 4

Chris Pine was asked about his thoughts on this projected sequel concept this week by The Huffington Post.

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HP: Kirk’s dad, George Kirk (Chris Hemsworth), is reportedly coming back in the next “Star Trek” movie. What are your thoughts on running into your dad and how do you think that interaction will be?

PINE: It’s such a trip that, in the first one, Chris [Hemsworth] had such a small but super important part and he knocked it out of the park. He’s only on screen for so little time and he’s really emotionally the centerpiece of that film.

I’ve only really seen him a couple times since then strangely, so it would be fun to reunite with him. I was honestly quite happy where the end of that father-son storyline ended, but I’d be happy to work with Chris again. He’s a great actor and a really nice man.
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We’re still a ways out from anything really moving forward on the Beyond sequel – there’s not even a targeted release date yet announced – so anything about the film is likely to be all speculative from the cast until there’s more announced.

Hopefully, it won’t be another three years.

http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/10/pine-weighs-in-on-george-kirks-return-in-star-trek-4/

 

[eyeresist]

We’re still a ways out from anything really moving forward on the Beyond sequel – there’s not even a targeted release date yet announced – so anything about the film is likely to be all speculative from the cast until there’s more announced. Hopefully it won’t be another three years.

Looks like they still haven't learned their lesson about striking while the iron is hot.
Let's try to be optimistic, and hope they are planning something really impactful to repopularise the film series.

 

[The Wormhole]

Looks like they still haven't learned their lesson about striking while the iron is hot.

The iron isn't really hot at the moment. Beyond didn't exactly blow the box office away, Paramount is facing a bit of a crisis themselves given how bad all their movies this past year have been doing.

Regardless, there probably wouldn't be much focus on another movie at the moment given the Trek franchise's spotlight at the moment is on Discovery.