Nimoy's Spock was much older than when we last saw the character in "Unification". Shatner's character would have to be a Nexus reject or somehow prior to the launch of the Enterprise-B. While I agree that Shatner looks good for his age, he does NOT look any where near Kirk circa Generations.
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I recall back in '09, Shatner suggesting they canonize his novels where Kirk returns from the grave via some ancient one-use-only gizmo a nefarious Romulan/Borg alliance were using.
Again, love Shatner but his time in the Trekverse is passed. He got a cool photo from his movie in the latest one. While I and most other hardcore fans would get a kick out of a Kirk-meets-Kirk scene, it'd be entirely frivolous. Kirk meeting his dad at least brings to a logical (in a sci-fi sense) conclusion his 3-movies-long daddy issues plotline.
Again, love Shatner but his time in the Trekverse is passed. He got a cool photo from his movie in the latest one. While I and most other hardcore fans would get a kick out of a Kirk-meets-Kirk scene, it'd be entirely frivolous. Kirk meeting his dad at least brings to a logical (in a sci-fi sense) conclusion his 3-movies-long daddy issues plotline.
The only way Shatner as Kirk could possibly appear would be if there was a Kelvin version of the "Deadly Years" as a cold open, where Shatner would be the aged nuKirk until Bones stabbed him with the cure. But unlike the TV version, Kirk would need to be on the bridge and be treated last, rather than first. That way, Shatner gets some "action time" (even saves the day) and then reverts to Pine. Otherwise, he's pretty much constrained to being a relative rather than James T.
ShatKirk's always been alive. A part of him is still in the Nexus. With Guinan. Who can transcend time and space and exists in multiple timelines (a la "Yesterday's Enterprise"). It would be easy to do if they wanted to, and it could all be within the canon. But they won't, 'cause they don't want to.
I am curious if Sam ever existed in the Kelvin timeline, though. I always thought he was Kirk's twin (having also been played by Shatner lying in a sickbay bed with a mustache) born at the same time but that clearly wasn't the case in ST09, with only the single birth on the Kelvin, so
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I am curious if Sam ever existed in the Kelvin timeline, though. I always thought he was Kirk's twin (having also been played by Shatner lying in a sickbay bed with a mustache) born at the same time but that clearly wasn't the case in ST09, with only the single birth on the Kelvin, so
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My impression was Sam is a few years older than Jim. Didn't Shatner have grey temples as Sam?. I always thought he was Kirk's twin (having also been played by Shatner lying in a sickbay bed with a mustache) born at the same time but that clearly wasn't the case in ST09, with only the single birth on the Kelvin, so
Yep - you're right. Forgot about that - been a long time since I saw Operation Annihilate. So there should be a Sam Kirk floating around out there in the KelvinVerse, too. I'm genuinely curious if the Abramites know about him or not.
No, Kirk left the Nexus of his own free will. He didn't leave an echo behind. The only reason Guinan did, is because she was "pulled...ripped away" by the Enterprise-B's transporter. People who leave the Nexus normally, don't have that problem
Sam was older than Jimmy, so Sam would have to have been born before the divergence. Therefore, yes, he does exist in the Kelvin timeline.
That said, the kid that young Jim passes by, when driving the sports car in ST09, was supposed to be Sam (who ran away from home). For some reason they overdubbed a line where Jim calls the kid by a different name.
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The kid Kirk drives by and yells "hey Johnny!" in Trek XI was actually supposed to be Sam, indeed there is a deleted scene set just beforehand establishing he is Sam Kirk, though in this timeline he goes by "George" (presumably because George Sr. is dead). The driving scene as filmed has Kirk yelling "hey George!" but for some reason this was changed to Johnny when the other scene was deleted.I am curious if Sam ever existed in the Kelvin timeline, though. I always thought he was Kirk's twin (having also been played by Shatner lying in a sickbay bed with a mustache) born at the same time but that clearly wasn't the case in ST09, with only the single birth on the Kelvin, so
Meanwhile, Sam was used IDW's comics, where his likeness is based on Chris Hemsworth as Thor, but a lot scruffier looking.
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