Transporters and Turbolifts

[Timo]

Or then the turbolift in "Incident" stops right when the camera ceases to observe the background lights (if I were Spock, I'd certainly hit STOP there), while the ride in the 2009 movie is at fast forward but Spock is such a stoic fella that his head doesn't do the "Street Hawk" wobble...

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Mytran]

Clearly the transporter is perfectly safe:

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That turbolift was going a bit TOO turbo

Also, it somehow ended the vertical ride to the bridge by travelling horizontally, given the direction that LaForge was spat out

 

[Timo]

1) Sidings at every major lift station, for facilitating keeping at least one cab waiting.
2) Inertia manipulators in each cab.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Johnny7oak]

not the same as vacuum pods with guidance clamps and ropes, or a gondola affect of them going on a ring path... the later would make the pods one directional in order to use multiple pods. Since they go two directional, they are just lifts on a bi-lateral design with the clamps and cable. They do not go far, and you have to share or wait. its what 40 meters at most? with possible long direction lift going aft to fore position on some of them.

Transporters become inoperable at times, so turbolift always seems to be a more reliable system until a section wide outage

 

[Mytran]

1) Sidings at every major lift station, for facilitating keeping at least one cab waiting.

This is indeed a common conceit on Trek blueprints (and one that makes a lot of sense). But the turbolift car wouldn't go through the siding in order to reach its destination, would it? Otherwise the siding could never be filled with a spare car. So, the car must have slid up to the bride, sideways into the siding and then forward again with enough "oomph" to propel Geordi out the doors!

2) Inertia manipulators in each cab.

Possible, and given the malfunctions happening on board at the time it is just as possible that the turbolift car was travelling normal speed and only the interial dampeners were misbehaving.
Ditto for my musings on the weird direction of the turbolift above

 

[Paul Weaver]

There are at least four turbolift doors on deck 1 - battle bridge dedicated, one next to the ready room, one at the back next to the engineering station, and one in the corridor outaide the briefing room. Perhaps the lift came up a shaft further back from the bridge (having a single track access to the bridge rear lift doesn't make good sense)

 

[Mytran]

There are at least four turbolift doors on deck 1 - battle bridge dedicated, one next to the ready room, one at the back next to the engineering station, and one in the corridor outaide the briefing room. Perhaps the lift came up a shaft further back from the bridge (having a single track access to the bridge rear lift doesn't make good sense)

The battle bridge turbo only goes to one place (guess where)

There are 2 other turboshafts to the main bridge (portside, fore and aft). I don't think we ever saw anything other than a corridor outside the Observation Lounge, did we?

 

[Timo]

The logistically advantageous setup would be to interconnect all the lift stations on the Bridge horizontally; this would also provide the stacking sidings when done right. There's an obvious showstopper in TNG, though... Aka the Ready Room.

A corridor around the TOS/TOS movie bridges, with one or two modular stations plugged in at suitable spots, and with two vertical shafts going down, would fit the evidence of that era nicely enough. For TNG, though, such horizontal connectors would have to be below Deck 1. But the exterior of the TNG miniature already shows that there is a horizontal stretch adjoining both turbolift stations separately: the lift stations are capped by ovals with two circles. Supposedly so that the circle closer to the door marks the Deck 1 station while the other circle is the shaft going past Deck 1 and up to a starbase connector or whatnot.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[sekundant]

A step to the realization of turbo lift:

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Thyssenkrupp develops world's first rope-free elevator which enables more than two cabins at the shaft and moving vertically and horizontally.

And I have heard some of the developers are real trekkies!

 

[Mytran]

That's a great innovation!

I'm having weird flashbacks at this part of the video though:

Does anyone else remember a British TV show from the 1980s that featured an out of control lift that would zoom around in any direction and sometimes spin on the spot? I don't think the entire programme was about the lift, it just appeared as a skit from time to time.
My wife seems to remember the same programme, so I don't think I'm completely mad!

 

[Sisko_is_my_captain]

Clearly the transporter is perfectly safe:

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That scene should have concluded with a disoriented Geordi groaning, "Uhh, that felt...personal..." followed by him puking.