What is most odd. I like the transformers movies in the order they were made. The first one is perfect. The most recent one is garbage. There are moments, but over all its just bad.
Transformers: Age of Extinction - Grading & Discussion
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So, if the only reasons I had for seeing this movie are Sophia Myles and the Dinobots, you're saying that it's largely a waste of time, is that right?
And yes, Ms. Myles and the Dinobots were the only reasons I was even passably interested in this film.
Sofia Myes like Rachel Taylor in the first movie will problem have a bigger role in the next one. It seemed like Sofia Myes and Stanley Tucci's characters were introduced so late so that they might be part of any future movies.
Sigh.
This just says so much about our society.
Nothing good.
No. I'm glad he died, I had way too much of his, "Whoa, dude!" stoner/idiot shtick during the parts of the movie he was in.
There are funny moments in 3.
Why is anybody surprised at this, after a bunch of years of naysayers bitching "Too much silly humor! Too much silly humor!"? Well, there ya go, not a lot of silly humor.
Am I reading that right? Does Optimus shoot a human?
You do know this is "The Transformers," right?
Mister Fandango
Fleet Captain
I'll be happy when the franchise falls into the hands of someone who actually likes the franchise.
Until then, fuck Michael Bay. I'm not going to be one of the mindless masses who throws money at him for reasons that defy all sense and logic.
Until then, fuck Michael Bay. I'm not going to be one of the mindless masses who throws money at him for reasons that defy all sense and logic.
$100 million domestic
$90 million in China.
When you chop off Canada's 1/10 from the domestic take, the US and China are dead even. It looks like the push for Chinese audiences paid off.
Humans weren't standing around and watching them firht in any of the movies, there was plenty of running and even fighting back. And yeah it is a Transformers movie there's goingto be plenty of robot on robot fighting.
Rachel Taylor wasn't in the second one.
Though I thought Myle's character might BE Taylor's character at first.. (it was the accent)
Yes.
He does indeed.
[COLONEL JESSUP] Appaled? [/COLONEL JESSUP]
She was offered the change to return for the second one but she turned them down.
First off: too long. Way too fucking long. A solid hour needed to be chopped off this thing.
Second: I really like the first one, despite the lame humor beats, and this one was actually OK until the second half, but 2 and 3 fucking sucked a donkey dick.
Finally: Everything else.
The Good
-They're setting up Unicron, which is sweet. Is the Micromachines guy still alive to do the Mongol warrior looking bot from the cartoon movie? Because that would be friggin awesome.
-Megatron becoming Galvatron was well done, as was most of the humans conspire to be dicks and make their own Transformers only to be tricked by Megatron's ghost in the machine plot.
-Evil CIA/Black Ops murdering shit and posing like they're in a Michael Bay movie was entertaining, and the first time humans are actually presented as possibly being a believable malevolent threat to our heroes, rather than simply being obstructionist or greedy.
-No The Beef. No The Beef's parents. No The Beef's inexplicable second love of his life. Awesome.
-Idiotic Jar Jar comic relief is brutally murdered very early.
-Autobots are visually and audibly identifiable, have a semblance of personality, and vary in their fighting styles.
-Ken Watanabe Samurai Autobot complete with Kendo Grip and huge katana! Fucking yes!
-Enormous Dinobots! Woohoo!
-Lockdown the Transformer bounty hunter and his Decepti-targs were cool, with a unique ship design.
-Daughter was smoking hot, though her choice in footwear was less than ideal for globe-trotting giant robot fighting.
The Bad
-No US military. Like fucking nothing.
-Chinese military called in and they do some lame airstrikes in the distant background after the baddies have already been routed. Lame.
-Seriously, where the hell were the world's armed forces? On vacation?
-There were two main plots that didn't so much converge as crash into one another in the tenth act or whenever the Battle of Hong Kong took place.
-Umm, hello? Prime? Galvatron? Remember the reborn Megatron? The guy who handed you your ass earlier. You going to hunt him down now that he's been isolated or are you going to use your deus ex RD-D2 rocket boots to fly off into space - oh, there you go. Bye, I guess.
-John Goodman had way too many lines, while Ken Watanabe had far too few.
-Crosshair and his metal trench coat were lame, and he behaved like a Decepticon most of the time. WTF?
-While I was pleasantly surprised how during the first 45 minutes or so the tech fetishist transformations were handled almost entirely off-screen, they came back full-force after that point and frankly, they're pretty damn tired. It's movie 4. I don't care how many little bits of shifting Optimus guts you can render. It's boring at this point. Please stop the slow-mo transformations. The blocky digital grid transformations of the human-made transformers were actually a visual relief.
The Ugly
-Human casualties were insane. We're talking thousands of dead, dying and maimed by the end, and the only time it's even mentioned is when Stanley Tucci, one of the villains, questions the horrific collateral damage done by a recently activated Galvatron. And we had to buttfuck Chicago AGAIN? Why?
-Along similar lines, the Autobots, especially Prime, outright curbstomped the Cemetery Wind black ops teams left, right and center, but it's a big deal that Prime blows away Evil Frasier at the end? Why? Because he used a gun and didn't just body slam him into raspberry jam?
-Why, other than to draw a Chinese audience, did we have to move the action to China? And once things do move to China...the Chinese either stand around with their thumbs up their asses or die by the trainload. Once the Chinese sequence started, the movie came completely undone.
Galvatron wants the bomb, but then him and FIFTY Decepticons are held off by two Autobots until Prime and the rest ride to the rescue on the Dinobots and annihilate every single Decepticon except Galvatron, who just inexplicably vanishes from the movie mid action sequence so Lockdown can return to do a little vacuuming, monologue and get executed.
Scientist chick and Evil Frasier hop through multiple rips in the space-time continuum in order to keep up with the action that has spread from Beijing to Hong Kong and say or do mostly meaningless shit.
Tucci completes his inexplicable transformation into Turturro by the end and the human heroes all hug, unconcered over the nightmarish destruction they help visit upon Chicago and Hong Kong. Wait, didn't Hong Kong get trashed in ROTF, too?
Then Optimus Prime decides to fly off alone using sub-light rocket boots to find the Creators and stomp a mudhole in their collective asses for putting a bounty on his head, when there's a space ship with an FTL drive hovering in the background just begging to be commandeered. See you in a million years, Prime! Good luck!
Second: I really like the first one, despite the lame humor beats, and this one was actually OK until the second half, but 2 and 3 fucking sucked a donkey dick.
Finally: Everything else.
The Good
-They're setting up Unicron, which is sweet. Is the Micromachines guy still alive to do the Mongol warrior looking bot from the cartoon movie? Because that would be friggin awesome.
-Megatron becoming Galvatron was well done, as was most of the humans conspire to be dicks and make their own Transformers only to be tricked by Megatron's ghost in the machine plot.
-Evil CIA/Black Ops murdering shit and posing like they're in a Michael Bay movie was entertaining, and the first time humans are actually presented as possibly being a believable malevolent threat to our heroes, rather than simply being obstructionist or greedy.
-No The Beef. No The Beef's parents. No The Beef's inexplicable second love of his life. Awesome.
-Idiotic Jar Jar comic relief is brutally murdered very early.
-Autobots are visually and audibly identifiable, have a semblance of personality, and vary in their fighting styles.
-Ken Watanabe Samurai Autobot complete with Kendo Grip and huge katana! Fucking yes!
-Enormous Dinobots! Woohoo!
-Lockdown the Transformer bounty hunter and his Decepti-targs were cool, with a unique ship design.
-Daughter was smoking hot, though her choice in footwear was less than ideal for globe-trotting giant robot fighting.
The Bad
-No US military. Like fucking nothing.
-Chinese military called in and they do some lame airstrikes in the distant background after the baddies have already been routed. Lame.
-Seriously, where the hell were the world's armed forces? On vacation?
-There were two main plots that didn't so much converge as crash into one another in the tenth act or whenever the Battle of Hong Kong took place.
-Umm, hello? Prime? Galvatron? Remember the reborn Megatron? The guy who handed you your ass earlier. You going to hunt him down now that he's been isolated or are you going to use your deus ex RD-D2 rocket boots to fly off into space - oh, there you go. Bye, I guess.
-John Goodman had way too many lines, while Ken Watanabe had far too few.
-Crosshair and his metal trench coat were lame, and he behaved like a Decepticon most of the time. WTF?
-While I was pleasantly surprised how during the first 45 minutes or so the tech fetishist transformations were handled almost entirely off-screen, they came back full-force after that point and frankly, they're pretty damn tired. It's movie 4. I don't care how many little bits of shifting Optimus guts you can render. It's boring at this point. Please stop the slow-mo transformations. The blocky digital grid transformations of the human-made transformers were actually a visual relief.
The Ugly
-Human casualties were insane. We're talking thousands of dead, dying and maimed by the end, and the only time it's even mentioned is when Stanley Tucci, one of the villains, questions the horrific collateral damage done by a recently activated Galvatron. And we had to buttfuck Chicago AGAIN? Why?
-Along similar lines, the Autobots, especially Prime, outright curbstomped the Cemetery Wind black ops teams left, right and center, but it's a big deal that Prime blows away Evil Frasier at the end? Why? Because he used a gun and didn't just body slam him into raspberry jam?
-Why, other than to draw a Chinese audience, did we have to move the action to China? And once things do move to China...the Chinese either stand around with their thumbs up their asses or die by the trainload. Once the Chinese sequence started, the movie came completely undone.
Galvatron wants the bomb, but then him and FIFTY Decepticons are held off by two Autobots until Prime and the rest ride to the rescue on the Dinobots and annihilate every single Decepticon except Galvatron, who just inexplicably vanishes from the movie mid action sequence so Lockdown can return to do a little vacuuming, monologue and get executed.
Scientist chick and Evil Frasier hop through multiple rips in the space-time continuum in order to keep up with the action that has spread from Beijing to Hong Kong and say or do mostly meaningless shit.
Tucci completes his inexplicable transformation into Turturro by the end and the human heroes all hug, unconcered over the nightmarish destruction they help visit upon Chicago and Hong Kong. Wait, didn't Hong Kong get trashed in ROTF, too?
Then Optimus Prime decides to fly off alone using sub-light rocket boots to find the Creators and stomp a mudhole in their collective asses for putting a bounty on his head, when there's a space ship with an FTL drive hovering in the background just begging to be commandeered. See you in a million years, Prime! Good luck!
Uh, no... it looked worse than my PS2 Screensaver.
I wasn't too much a fan of the blocky transformations either. It's enough that the transformations of the Autobots is already filled with a lot of 3-dimensional space questions, now we have floating blocks that pretty much can just do whatever they want and look like malfunctioning laptop screen? Bah!
To be fair, I don't think Tucci's character is supposed to be a villain when you look at the movie as a whole. He's supposed to be a businessman concerned about his company, making money, revolutionizing technology and he's a bit of an asshole, sure. And he didn't think a whole lot of the Transformers, sure.
But, in the end, he did show concern over human casualties during the product tests and he did show great concern and thought over the idea that his ultimate goal could be far more dangerous and risky than he thought and ended up doing the right thing.
He wasn't a villain, never was, probably the most "rounded" character as you can get in a Bay movie as he was pretty much a normal person with normal person goals and morals.
He didn't want to end the world or anything of the sort, he just wanted a profitable business with advanced technology no one could get their hands on.
To be fair, I don't think Tucci's character is supposed to be a villain when you look at the movie as a whole. He's supposed to be a businessman concerned about his company, making money, revolutionizing technology and he's a bit of an asshole, sure. And he didn't think a whole lot of the Transformers, sure.
But, in the end, he did show concern over human casualties during the product tests and he did show great concern and thought over the idea that his ultimate goal could be far more dangerous and risky than he thought and ended up doing the right thing.
He wasn't a villain, never was, probably the most "rounded" character as you can get in a Bay movie as he was pretty much a normal person with normal person goals and morals.
He didn't want to end the world or anything of the sort, he just wanted a profitable business with advanced technology no one could get their hands on.
1. KSI planned to detonate the bomb in Mongolia. Galvatron planned to steal the Seed and detonate it in a major city and China has some of the most populous cities in the world.
2. Most of the world's manufacturing occurs in China. Having a robot factory in China makes perfect sense.
3. No US military. Honestly I was tired of the war porn. Fire breathing dinosaurs are better.