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[CorporalCaptain]

Adding different shades of yellow of course makes it more complicated. Still, a certain small part of the visible spectrum is yellow. Why else would you use it as a spectrum analogy?

Cones are a reason why the analogy fits better to a combination of primary colors. You can absolutely reduce yellow perception to a combination of M and L cone responses as you point out, and yellow is not a separate thing then. Maybe I misunderstood your analogy, cause from my POV, you're arguing against it

The point is that yellow is its own thing. The psychological yellow is neither red nor green. If you don't understand the analogy, then my advice is just move on and don't get hung up on it.

 

[NCC-73515]

The point is that yellow is its own thing. The psychological yellow is neither red nor green. If you don't understand the analogy, then my advice is just move on and don't get hung up on it.

It doesn't have its own cone though. Either it cannot be reduced to two other things and is its own thing, or it can be reduced to two cones and is a combination of their responses. Moving on.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

It doesn't have its own cone though. Either it cannot be reduced to two other things and is its own thing, or it can be reduced to two cones and is a combination of their responses. Moving on.

The point is that there is more to yellow than the stimulation of cones. It's different in the downstream processing, in the brain. The point is that, if you're thinking only in terms of cones or frequency distribution, you aren't fully grasping what yellow is.

 

[UssGlenn]

It is the fact that typically people have three-types of cones (S, M, and L; some people have fewer, some have more)

Don't you find it exhausting to have to constantly reference outlying cases when having a general discussion of human physiology?

By the way, good job on doing so here, I would totally have called you out on that if you hadn't.

There's also a discussion to be had of when this sort of "micro-inclusion" is counter-productive. Are we accomplishing anything to have kindergarteners answering the question "How many fingers to most people have?"

There's also the euphemism treadmill to deal with. "Normal" has lost all meaning. Can typical and average be far behind?

 

[Campe]

We all have differences whether it be personality, biological, psychological, gender, sexuality, cultural, etc. What is “normal?” And who gets to make that determination?

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Are we accomplishing anything to have kindergarteners answering the question "How many fingers to most people have?"

When one of the children in class in fact doesn't have ten fingers, you likely have to do better than a trite, "people have ten fingers."

Don't you find it exhausting to have to constantly reference outlying cases when having a general discussion of human physiology?

When I don't take into account as many outlying cases as it is feasible to do, the software I write fails too often to be useful. Properly qualified generalizations are a necessity.

Do I still say, "mailman"? Nearly every goddamned day. Improving, correcting, and refining are ongoing processes. We are all works in progress. But, we reach, or we lapse into terminal mediocrity at best.

 

[Jayson1]

I am totally getting lost in this thread. I can say though I like the color yellow. Also does anyone think these two new characters might have a romance. You can see them holding hands. Looks like everyone might be for some love this year except Saru and Tilly.

Jason

 

[BillJ]

We are all works in progress.

Every single day. Sometimes, it is a struggle.

 

[cultcross]

Quite. And as we have drifted a probably irreparably long way from Discovery, I think we will leave it on that note.