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JulieYBM said:
Yeah, Hollywood depicts us as either serial killers (Dressed to Kill, Psycho, Sleepaway Camp, Silence of the Lambs), jokes or disgusting. Remember all that vomiting in Ace Ventura when everyone realized they had made out with a trans woman? Goddamn, it makes me angry to think about.
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Yep and I remember the howling laughter of anyone I watched it with. I don't think I can ever forgive that movie for that.

I have developed an appreciation of Sleepaway Camp, but it's in full acknowledgment for a lot of things. But I like the character of Angela who is the only sympathetic character in the whole movie despite being the killer, so I just root for her.
 
It's such a weird, twisted set up that trans people constantly have to overlook aspects of media just to "focus on the positive". Meanwhile cis people never have the feel the same way we do because they don't feel under represented in media.

What I wouldn't give for a movie or series with a casually trans main character produced by and for all types of trans people.
 
Like any cis actor it all depends on the actor. Like, I'm incredibly biased as a trans woman (but also someone who also openly likes cis people) but there are plenty of tremendously hot and charismatic trans performers out there. Look for them, they are always out there auditioning already. Sometimes you won't even know they're trans!

Besides, major studios are hardly hard up for cash considering the shlock they already produce.
 
I'd love a series but short of low budget crowdfunded shows I don't see it happening anytime soon. I only know of one novel written by a trans person for trans people. It's very frustrating because I want more and I'm willing to pay for it, but I can barely find it.

There is a show that's on Netflix now, but it was produced years ago and they weren't able to do many episodes.
 
I know at least one trans author but they write erotica, which I'm going to just assume is not something the rules will allow me to post publicly. lolz

I'm currently writing a novel about a trans woman discovering she's trans (and attracted to men) after playing a VRMMO. It's about her trans-ness, though, and not just a generic story where the character just so happens to be a trans woman.

EDIT: Oh, anyway, I really can't wait to see how things turns out. Extremely critical as I might be I'm still looking forward to it.
 
JulieYBM said:
I know at least one trans author but they write erotica, which I'm going to just assume is not something the rules will allow me to post publicly. lolz

I'm currently writing a novel about a trans woman discovering she's trans (and attracted to men) after playing a VRMMO. It's about her trans-ness, though, and not just a generic story where the character just so happens to be a trans woman.

EDIT: Oh, anyway, I really can't wait to see how things turns out. Extremely critical as I might be I'm still looking forward to it.
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Pro-trans narrative isekai trash?

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CorporalClegg said:
Pro-trans narrative isekai trash?

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To be fair, the game is just a game she plays (choosing a cute girl as her avatar because she wants to be a cute girl). A really nice man (basically, looks and sounds like Midorima from Kuroko no Basketball) treats her like a woman ( instead of being sleazy like most men usually do in game) and she gets knocked off balance. Meanwhile she's on the rocks with her boss in real life...but then after she accidentally outs herself to the nice male player she snaps at her boss and that begins a positive in their relationship. By Chapter #3 her boss and her realize that they know each other from the game.

If I ever write my sequel I'm going to have the telecommunications company they work for begin to use 5G waves to modify peoples' bodies into their ideal form. It'll be a goofy magical girl story within a thriller genre.

UssGlenn said:
Interesting list, never noticed that theme before, however I'm not a fan of horror. But does Psycho really belong on the list?
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Norman dresses as a woman "because he was abused" and then goes around killing people.
 
Awesome Possum said:
The Outcast just ends up being misery porn about LGBTQ people and that was the positive narrative for much of the 80s and 90s. Where instead of just the butt of a joke, the gay or trans person was treated with sympathy but they end up being killed for existing. While that does help cis and heterosexual people to learn to have empathy for gay and trans people, it assumes that no gay and trans people were watching and seeing this as the best possible future they could have.
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Yep, that's what Rejoined got so much better - at no point is Jadzia and Lenara's gender or sexuality an issue. Kira, Quark, Sisko, Odo were all accepting and supportive. As a gay kid, that was what I wanted to see.

But that was all we saw. Nineties Trek has a pretty shamefully legacy of exclusion, and even DS9 had Quark in drag and played gay characters for laughs or titillation in the Mirror universe.
 
Queer characters can be sexy, they just need to not be purely for the sake of cis men.

Birds of Prey had my sapphic ass sweating HARD.
 
Awesome Possum said:
I have developed an appreciation of Sleepaway Camp, but it's in full acknowledgment for a lot of things. But I like the character of Angela who is the only sympathetic character in the whole movie despite being the killer, so I just root for her.
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Kind of how I feel about Basic Instinct. I always felt Verhoeven was going for pro-murder rather than anti-bisexual.
 
JulieYBM said:
To be fair, the game is just a game she plays (choosing a cute girl as her avatar because she wants to be a cute girl). A really nice man (basically, looks and sounds like Midorima from Kuroko no Basketball)
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I haven't seen it. Oddly, despite being a big sports fan, I generally find sports shōnen to be kind of boring.

treats her like a woman ( instead of being sleazy like most men usually do in game) and she gets knocked off balance. Meanwhile she's on the rocks with her boss in real life...but then after she accidentally outs herself to the nice male player she snaps at her boss and that begins a positive in their relationship. By Chapter #3 her boss and her realize that they know each other from the game.
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I actually think this is interesting and may even tap into some of my own feelings. Even though I definitely identify as cis-straight, I do have a strong internal feminine side, even if it's a bit subdued. I have a Sailor Moon costume, but I've only dressed up in a few times. But when I do, I go all out.

And I do mostly play female characters in MMOs. And while I'm not going to deny there's probably some bit of objectification to it, that's really not what it's about for me. I don't participate in the 'chain mail bikinis' of it all. I create detailed bios and really try to cultivate a character. For me it's more about experiencing the adventure as a strong woman than it is just staring at pixilated asses for 100+ hours.

I mention all this because, in any given MMO dominated by boys playing girls (which is pretty much all of them), certainly 90% are strictly there for the digital waifu. But I noticed over the years that there are a lot more (especially in certain games) like me than one might think. The thing is I've also noticed a lot of them are hugely transphobic, which has always seemed really odd to me.

So even if you don't intend it to, I think your story could work well as a 'teaching metaphor'.

If I ever write my sequel I'm going to have the telecommunications company they work for begin to use 5G waves to modify peoples' bodies into their ideal form. It'll be a goofy magical girl story within a thriller genre.
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And this has the added benefit of pissing-off all the right people.
 
Awesome Possum said:
The Outcast just ends up being misery porn about LGBTQ people and that was the positive narrative for much of the 80s and 90s. Where instead of just the butt of a joke, the gay or trans person was treated with sympathy but they end up being killed for existing. While that does help cis and heterosexual people to learn to have empathy for gay and trans people, it assumes that no gay and trans people were watching and seeing this as the best possible future they could have.
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Del Arco found it "wonderful" in terms of representation
 
CorporalClegg said:
I haven't seen it. Oddly, despite being a big sports fan, I generally find sports shōnen to be kind of boring.

I actually think this is interesting and may even tap into some of my own feelings. Even though I definitely identify as cis-straight, I do have a strong internal feminine side, even if it's a bit subdued. I have a Sailor Moon costume, but I've only dressed up in a few times. But when I do, I go all out.

And I do mostly play female characters in MMOs. And while I'm not going to deny there's probably some bit of objectification to it, that's really not what it's about for me. I don't participate in the 'chain mail bikinis' of it all. I create detailed bios and really try to cultivate a character. For me it's more about experiencing the adventure as a strong woman than it is just staring at pixilated asses for 100+ hours.

I mention all this because, in any given MMO dominated by boys playing girls (which is pretty much all of them), certainly 90% are strictly there for the digital waifu. But I noticed over the years that there are a lot more (especially in certain games) like me than one might think. The thing is I've also noticed a lot of them are hugely transphobic, which has always seemed really odd to me.

So even if you don't intend it to, I think your story could work well as a 'teaching metaphor'.

And this has the added benefit of pissing-off all the right people.
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Kuroko is a great series. I enjoyed it before I realized I was bi and a woman for the cool animation and strategies but since hatching and getting into Yaoi and Boy's Love I can appreciate it on new levels, too.

Anyway, I want to create wish-fulfillment for trans people. Cis people get a ton of it but there is so little visible art by and for trans people. My novel is in part born of that, as well as my interest in Sword Art Online and Re:Zero.

It's funny, because I love Yuuki Asuna (SAO) and Rem (Re:Zero). They were two characters who I looked up to for being both feminine but also cool and strong fighters. It blew my mind to see cool women that were also cute and feminine and faced similar real problems like I did (family issues, feeling a lack of control over their paths or self-esteem issues). The connection I felt to them really helped open me up to realizing I was trans.

Honestly, your post really reminds me of me in 2016-2018. I was struggling to understand what was torturing me so and then I was finally able to hit that wall where I could only acknowledge "I see myself as a woman". Six months later in January 2019 I was asking my doctor for HRT. I socially transitioned on Twitter and with close friends and after a few months of that I KNEW I had to be Julie and not [deadname] all the time or else I'd commit suicide. :)
 
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