Trailer #2 - Consolidated Discussion

[Brass]

Game of Thrones would fit into the TOS era trope of finding Human planets.

Though the magic probably wouldn't.

I dont know, maybe if the magic were explained by telekinesis or advanced beings, I could totally see it being a TOS episode.

 

[Rahul]

My one, BIG criticism of the trailer:

EVERYTHING is black, orange and teal!
What happened to all the other colours? What happened to YELLOW? RED? GREEN? PURPLE?

I thought we left the 'everything is dark grey'-phase of Trek with Berman&Braga, and Star Trek 09 was wonderfully colourful! But, like a zombie, it seems to return. Into Darkness, Discovery,... everything is DS9/VOY/ENT-grey again. Man, Enterprise notably improved at the same time they added some colours to it (3rd and 4th season). Also: lighten the fuck up! literally! The classic Star Trek starships were almost white. But nowadays we only have dark grey/black starships...
Hope they add some colours for the second season!

 

[Tesophius]

My one, BIG criticism of the trailer:

EVERYTHING is black, orange and teal!
What happened to all the other colours? What happened to YELLOW? RED? GREEN? PURPLE?

I thought we left the 'everything is dark grey'-phase of Trek with Berman&Braga, and Star Trek 09 was wonderfully colourful! But, like a zombie, it seems to return. Into Darkness, Discovery,... everything is DS9/VOY/ENT-grey again. Man, Enterprise notably improved at the same time they added some colours to it (3rd and 4th season). Also: lighten the fuck up! literally! The classic Star Trek starships were almost white. But nowadays we only have dark grey/black starships...
Hope they add some colours for the second season!

Absolutely, I think the gloomy atmosphere is what is throwing me off the most in the trailers.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Game of Thrones would fit into the TOS era trope of finding Human planets.

Though the magic probably wouldn't.

It takes place on Berengaria VII

 

[Borg]

What bothers me is James Frain as Sarek. I know he's a good actor but something about his delivery is lacking to me. I wish they had gotten Gray Graham as Soval instead.

I felt the same way, he just didn't "sound" like a Vulcan to me. Can't explain why. He looks the part though.

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

So did I hear them right? Did they say they are going to the "Upside-down"?
Are they going to find Will Byers, "Eleven", and poor Barbara there?

 

[Rahul]

Absolutely, I think the gloomy atmosphere is what is throwing me off the most in the trailers.

I guess the gloomy atmosphere is 100% appropriate for a trailer. Many MARVEL movies (those super fun ones) have extremely serious trailer focusing on death, destruction and the end of the world.

For the series, however, I want to see sam fun! Side-adventures, goofy characters and weird settings! Not everything has to be Game of Thrones.

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

Michael Learned from The Waltons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Learned

Female Michaels are probably about as common a male Carols (like Carol O'Connor).

Such as Carol Reed -- the director of one of my all-time favorite films (somewhere in the Top 10), The Third Man

He also directed Odd Man Out, which is another very good film, with James Mason as an IRA member on the run and out in the cold.

EDIT TO ADD:
And, yeah -- I grew up with The Waltons and remember the Bangles because they were cute, and I do remember Michael Learned and Michael Steele, so the female name "Michael" -- while uncommon -- is not unknown to me.

 

[captainkirk]

I want Sarek on a Dragon NOW!

Ask and you shall receive.

 

[cultcross]

So did I hear them right? Did they say they are going to the "Upside-down"?
Are they going to find Will Byers, "Eleven", and poor Barbara there?

Star Trek III: The Search For Barbs

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

Which would stand to reason if the Shenzou is older, and was in about the same era as the Kelvin.

So, older means fewer bulbs? Or more burnt out bulbs?

 

[Wouter]

Do we see the Europa ramming the main Klingon ship at some point, seen from the bridge of the Shenzhou?

I'm still fuzzy on what is happening. The Shenzhou is definitiely engaging in combat at some point (are all those vessels Klingon though, including the one that may resemble Goauld death gliders a bit?) and seems to be abandoned at some point. The seemingly large starship, Europa, also is present at some point and rams a Klingon object or ship.

Burnham is seen running through empty corridors on what may be a starfleet ship, could be the Europa again (who sets it on the collision course?). Mudd is also involved with his own vessel. And at some point (maybe during or shortly after the battle, maybe after quite some time has passed), the Discovery comes in and takes Burnham on board.

I'm not sure where the arrest of Burnham or the scene where she wonders "what is happening on this ship" have to be placed. Is the latter on the Shenzhou or Discovery? Why is the Europa present, when the Shenzhou gives the impression of being out alone in a far reach of space?

 

[Noname Given]

And then he tells David he "never faced death like this", having also lived through Kodos the Executioner's reign of terror!

- And having to kill his very good/old friend Gary Mitchell (TOS: "Where No Man Has Gone Before")

- Or surviving the attack of the Gas Creature in TOS: "Obsession" - where said attack to 2/3rds of the crew and a Captain that Kirk looked up to while serving as a Lt. on that ship.

 

[Mudd]

We don't know anything about Kirk's experience with Kodos other than a brief schematic statement in "Conscience." It's hard to take that seriously.

 

[fireproof78]

Do we see the Europa ramming the main Klingon ship at some point, seen from the bridge of the Shenzhou?

I'm still fuzzy on what is happening. The Shenzhou is definitiely engaging in combat at some point (are all those vessels Klingon though, including the one that may resemble Goauld death gliders a bit?) and seems to be abandoned at some point. The seemingly large starship, Europa, also is present at some point and rams a Klingon object or ship.

Burnham is seen running through empty corridors on what may be a starfleet ship, could be the Europa again (who sets it on the collision course?). Mudd is also involved with his own vessel. And at some point (maybe during or shortly after the battle, maybe after quite some time has passed), the Discovery comes in and takes Burnham on board.

I'm not sure where the arrest of Burnham or the scene where she wonders "what is happening on this ship" have to be placed. Is the latter on the Shenzhou or Discovery? Why is the Europa present, when the Shenzhou gives the impression of being out alone in a far reach of space?

Sounds like you'll have to tune in and see

 

[saddestmoon]

My impression is that the shenzhou is trying to rescue the crew of the Europa... although I'm prolly wrong on this count.

All I'm certain on, is that I would love to own diecast versions of all these starships!!!

 

[Mr. Nova]

Do we see the Europa ramming the main Klingon ship at some point, seen from the bridge of the Shenzhou?

It looks like the collision is happening in super slow-mo. I don't know if this was just a cinematic effect or if it may indicate some sort of time anomaly.

 

[Mudd]

It's funny that when the producers were vague about Burnham's rank - "nominally a lieutenant commander" - we thought that indicated she'd be on a story track to captain a ship.

It turns out to mean that she's busted early on.

 

[starmike]

It looks like the collision is happening in super slow-mo. I don't know if this was just a cinematic effect or if it may indicate some sort of time anomaly.

Again with the time anomaly?

 

[Nerys Myk]

Could Burhman be on the Europa? Maybe the force field in the chunk of debris she's in is from the Europa?