Good description of it. There's something missing, almost like Frain is bored. He's drained Sarek of all emotion. Whereas I felt that Lenard and Cross subtly placed emotion in their voices and performances as Sarek. It was there, just below the surface, in how tightly they spoke for example.
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Good description of it. There's something missing, almost like Frain is bored. He's drained Sarek of all emotion. Whereas I felt that Lenard and Cross subtly placed emotion in their voices and performances as Sarek. It was there, just below the surface, in how tightly they spoke for example.
I didn't know Frain was English...
Actually, Kirk was often (privately) portrayed as a leader who struggled with huge decisions. I always liked that about the character.
Yes, but Star Trek Beyond though...
I was part of the outrage about the Beyond trailer that featured Sabotage so prominently. Then the movie comes out and through the magic of context I loved the song and the scene. I very much doubt we'll be hearing any pop music in the actual show. But as far as its use in this trailer, I've been too quick to judge before.
Pew pew gets views on trailers.
At the comic-con panel they assured us that there will be peaceful soluations in the show, it will have Trek talking solutions instead of fighting
I loved it. I suspect I am going to enjoy it much in the way I enjoy the Kelvin Universe movies more than the way I enjoy the shows which is kind of different for each show.
TOS: Family feeling between Kirk,Spock and McCoy and campy 60's look.
TNG: Picard/Patrick Stewart and Micheal Pillar's future speak plus focus on character.
DS9: Unique setting with it being on a space station instead of a ship. PLus a change in being able to do more conflict from TNG and it's ability to challenge Trek tropes and take more risks.
"Discovery" looks like it will be a fun action adventure show that looks great from a visual point of view but doesn't really fit well with anything we have seen on tv with Trek and any pretense their is a connection will be ignored by the time season 1 is over. I don't see many "Duet" or "The Drumhead" type of episodes coming from it but I do see it being able to delivery on big scope stuff like "Best of Both Worlds" or "Year of Hell."
I think the Doug Jones character is going to be the breakout star along with the new Mudd along with the fungus guy, because comic relief characters are always liked. I think Burnham will be a solid lead but I don't think she will match KIrk,Picard,Sisko or even Janeway in terms of popularity.
The Klingons are going to get old if they feel like stiff Monsters the whole time. Remember these are the guys who are supose to have big belly laughts and lots of swagger. I also suspect the reticon of having Burnham be Spock's sister is going to work because, like I said everyone is going to stop caring about how this show fits into the other shows so it won't matter if it makes no sense.
Jason
TOS: Family feeling between Kirk,Spock and McCoy and campy 60's look.
TNG: Picard/Patrick Stewart and Micheal Pillar's future speak plus focus on character.
DS9: Unique setting with it being on a space station instead of a ship. PLus a change in being able to do more conflict from TNG and it's ability to challenge Trek tropes and take more risks.
"Discovery" looks like it will be a fun action adventure show that looks great from a visual point of view but doesn't really fit well with anything we have seen on tv with Trek and any pretense their is a connection will be ignored by the time season 1 is over. I don't see many "Duet" or "The Drumhead" type of episodes coming from it but I do see it being able to delivery on big scope stuff like "Best of Both Worlds" or "Year of Hell."
I think the Doug Jones character is going to be the breakout star along with the new Mudd along with the fungus guy, because comic relief characters are always liked. I think Burnham will be a solid lead but I don't think she will match KIrk,Picard,Sisko or even Janeway in terms of popularity.
The Klingons are going to get old if they feel like stiff Monsters the whole time. Remember these are the guys who are supose to have big belly laughts and lots of swagger. I also suspect the reticon of having Burnham be Spock's sister is going to work because, like I said everyone is going to stop caring about how this show fits into the other shows so it won't matter if it makes no sense.
Jason
Well, the Klingon culture can have multiple sides to it, right? I think that's the idea.
That's true I just hope the side we see doesn't turn out to be the boring ones.
They do look scary but I wonder if they have more to offer than just that. Jason
I think you're probably right here. But it's worth noting that those memorable bottle shows were basically done to save money when you had to make 26 episodes a year. With Discovery being a different kind of series, with fewer episodes and apparently a more "auteured" ongoing story, I don't think we'll see those type of standalone character studies.
That'll be a shame on one level, but at the same time often in the previous series there wasn't much continuity. Something incredible and momentus would happen to a character, but the next week it was as if nothing had happened - Picard in 'The Inner Light' and O'Brien in 'Hard Time' for example.
That doesn't mean it'll all be spectacle and no character though. I think these people will be more affected and changed by the events they live through. That couldn't always be said for the previous series. Kirk in season one isn't very different from Kirk in season three. We learn virtually nothing about Geordi over seven years and four films that we didn't know in the pilot. Chakotay basically stops developing as a person after the end of Caretaker.
Maybe Lorca is one for idioms, and just means they're looking to find a new way to live life....
Trekcore fashions a possible story
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http://trekcore.com/blog/2017/07/breaking-down-the-star-trek-discovery-comic-con-trailer/
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http://trekcore.com/blog/2017/07/breaking-down-the-star-trek-discovery-comic-con-trailer/
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It was pretty cool trailer. A bit heavy on the pew pew for my liking, but it is understandable choice for a trailer they want to capture people's attention. While the production design of the Federation side is starting to grow on me, I'm still not liking the Klingons. Their ships look weird too, not that we got a good look. I think the the brutalistic design of previous productions suited the warrior race better than this overtly ornate style. Oh well, not a deal breaker or anything and I'm still pretty damn hyped.
I gave the trailer a D. To much mindless action (that didn't even look that good), and the bits of character stuff we get is fairly awful. Of course, the second they show the blobs of crap they're calling ""Klingons" the trailer was basically an automatic failure to me, but even forgetting that it had very little substance.
This is pretty much how I saw the trailer as well. Might obviously still be completely wrong but it makes sense to me.
I suspect they've got it pretty close - but not sure about there being a major gap between the Shenzhou and the Discovery, nor that T'Kuvma is a present day Klingon. Still think it's possible that these are historical Klingons that were exiled/left Q'onos like the Romulans left Vulcan etc
Also - given we're out on the frontier, there must be a reasonable gap between the start and the battle scenes unless the destruction of the Europa is misleading and comes much later when the Discovery has arrived.
Maybe they have to go back to the wreck of the Shenzhou (or the Europa) to recover some sort of device that, if left unchecked, could empower the Klingons.
I just can't see where people can hate the show from just a few clips. My guess is they are so wrapped up in their personal version of what Star Trek is, they've totally forgotten Star Trek is a money making enterprise (no pun intended) that has been handled, changed, and imaged by hundreds and hundreds of production designers and writers over the years. The entire consistency of the Star Trek universe is not a rock, more like sand.
Discovery is not just Star Trek, it's NEW Star Trek and I'm gonna watch the premier no matter what the content of any trailers they put out. If I hate it, I'll be $10 a month richer. I'd rather be $10 a month poorer. Even though I still don't like the idea of getting CBS All Access for just one show.
Discovery is not just Star Trek, it's NEW Star Trek and I'm gonna watch the premier no matter what the content of any trailers they put out. If I hate it, I'll be $10 a month richer. I'd rather be $10 a month poorer. Even though I still don't like the idea of getting CBS All Access for just one show.
With the Europa we're getting our third new Fed ship already.
Trying to make sense what it looks like. Saucer with slate-like engineering hull and nacelles above, or a Soyuz-class-like configuration?
With the Discovery being based on the McQuarrie-prise, I thought the Europa looked like it was based on the early Excelsior designs.
I haven't looked too closely, but my impression was that the USS Europa looked a bit like the USS Yamato from the old Starfleet/Klingon Academy games
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