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Tracking the Virus

Dryson

Commodore
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There are a lot of websites out there tracking the daily increase of infected and deaths. Too many to be honest to get an accurate fix on correct data.

I have been using the "pandemic numbers in the U.S." Google search criteria.

Right now the U.S. at 0.0646037007 people being infected every .010986328125 min ( 1.07421875 sec)

Based on a 91 day average of infections, the U.S. should reach 1.00 person infected every 1.07 seconds, sometime in early to mid Summer.

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60 days 15 hours 28 minutes 00 seconds until Summer 2020 begins.

https://yourcountdown.to/summer
 
That averaging is still loads better than the ideas coming from some from the tinfoil hat lot who say all this is a hoax cuz more people die from heart attacks each year. I mean, I had no idea a cough or touching a railing or jar that someone else touched or licked could spread heart attacks...
 
That averaging is still loads better than the ideas coming from some from the tinfoil hat lot who say all this is a hoax cuz more people die from heart attacks each year. I mean, I had no idea a cough or touching a railing or jar that someone else touched or licked could spread heart attacks...

In Ohio, as a result of those calling the pandemic a hoax, there was an explosion of over 1,300 new cases yesterday after protesters marched the street with their guns and signs.


If I have done the calculations correctly, the U.S. will cross the threshold of 1.00 people being infected every 1.07 seconds in 202 days. On 11.10.2020 the U.S. will reach and pass the threshold of 1.00.

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In Ohio, as a result of those calling the pandemic a hoax, there was an explosion of over 1,300 new cases yesterday after protesters marched the street with their guns and signs.


If I have done the calculations correctly, the U.S. will cross the threshold of 1.00 people being infected every 1.07 seconds in 202 days. On 11.10.2020 the U.S. will reach and pass the threshold of 1.00.

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Good heavens, that's potentially worrying...

All in the same area were documented cases or were the 1,300 statewide cases? (I think I found an article you may have seen: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/more-than-new-1300-cases-of-covid-19-reported-in-ohio/ar-BB12SGlu)

That protest could see the number jump big time as well... Only one infected person is needed at the right place. Such as that lovely video of some bloke licking a subway handle. That's a great way to make new cases... among other things... And protesters forget, one reason why the numbers aren't higher is because of social distancing. Which isn't a total stop and there might be better ways to do all this but if they're screeching in the here and now in claims it's a hoax... At one point there may have been legitimate reason to believe that. At this point, why are they so certain it's a hoax?

Still, when I hear "4000 new cases reported", that's the size of an entire small town or two. They say "hoax" because their local hospital may have one or two cases and not be overran in the way larger cities have been. In a larger city with 125000 or more people, that 4000 seems small but could very well balloon if everybody be-bopped and lallygagged like how they usually do. The death rate could be higher, having this for weeks of enduring respiratory misery (hence yon hospital overloads)... or for a number they will be asymptomatic... never mind long-term issues of immunity (or not), reinfection, virus mutation rendering antibodies ineffective, and a litany of variables and nuances therein... /choirpreaching

Plus, I don't recall anyone saying anything like "People giving up condoms to prevent HSV don't deserve the former" or anything as nutty. COVID is a virus too, only HSV (which is known and HSV1 is comparatively quite benign) doesn't cling to thrive in all areas of the body (only two), survive for hours or longer on a container or jar that was touched after fondling an infected area, or if one has a dry cough at just the right moments. Nor do we know the long-term ramifications quite yet for what is a new pandemic. Wake me when a strain of HSV is caused by dry cough and touching something that was touched and then one picks their nose immediately afterward.
 
I was running another scenario that no one has thought about yet.

Even though the virus dies after a certain number of days outside of the human body the fact is that the virus does not have expiration date, if you will, like the flu and cold viruses do.

What this means is that humanity will have to permanently remain on medication developed to kill SARS-CoV-2 virus. Right now, COVID-19 the disease caused by the virus has been treated, but only marginally. With humans along with house pets such as cats and Big Cats also needing protection from infection produces three obstacles to defeat the virus.

1. How will the vaccine effect human health over the lifetime of a human?

2. Will medication prevent human to house cat and Big Cat transfer of the virus?

3. Will medication prevent house cat to house cat to human transfer of the virus?

We don't even have a vaccine developed for humans yet.

The problem with the vaccine is that all humans on Earth will have too stay on any vaccine their entire life to prevent being infected.
Some people are already asymptomatic as well as some house cats and Big Cats as well that have not been tested yet for their carrier based version of the virus. Medication will need to be developed to ensure that asymptomatic people do not spread the virus to people who are not their medication, which we know at least 500,000,000 people worldwide would be defiant by saying that taking medication is against their religious belief. Those types of asymptomatic people along with asymptomatic house pets and infected pets will be the ones to keep the virus going when a vaccine is finally developed.

Developing a vaccine for humans is not the last word in defeating the virus. Vaccines for asymptomatic people along with house cats and Big Cats will also need developed as well.

The fight against SARS-CoV-2 will not be won by ignorant politicians sending people to work, nor will the war against SARS-CoV-2 be won until the Asymptomatic Issue for humans. house cats and Big Cats be decided by medication that blocks the transmittance of the virus.

The fight against SARS-CoV-2 could in fact last five to ten or even 20 years until all of the criteria has been met to kill the virus and block asymptomatic carriers from shedding the virus to other people.
 
Good heavens, that's potentially worrying...

All in the same area were documented cases or were the 1,300 statewide cases? (I think I found an article you may have seen: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/more-than-new-1300-cases-of-covid-19-reported-in-ohio/ar-BB12SGlu)

That protest could see the number jump big time as well... Only one infected person is needed at the right place. Such as that lovely video of some bloke licking a subway handle. That's a great way to make new cases... among other things... And protesters forget, one reason why the numbers aren't higher is because of social distancing. Which isn't a total stop and there might be better ways to do all this but if they're screeching in the here and now in claims it's a hoax... At one point there may have been legitimate reason to believe that. At this point, why are they so certain it's a hoax?

Still, when I hear "4000 new cases reported", that's the size of an entire small town or two. They say "hoax" because their local hospital may have one or two cases and not be overran in the way larger cities have been. In a larger city with 125000 or more people, that 4000 seems small but could very well balloon if everybody be-bopped and lallygagged like how they usually do. The death rate could be higher, having this for weeks of enduring respiratory misery (hence yon hospital overloads)... or for a number they will be asymptomatic... never mind long-term issues of immunity (or not), reinfection, virus mutation rendering antibodies ineffective, and a litany of variables and nuances therein... /choirpreaching

Plus, I don't recall anyone saying anything like "People giving up condoms to prevent HSV don't deserve the former" or anything as nutty. COVID is a virus too, only HSV (which is known and HSV1 is comparatively quite benign) doesn't cling to thrive in all areas of the body (only two), survive for hours or longer on a container or jar that was touched after fondling an infected area, or if one has a dry cough at just the right moments. Nor do we know the long-term ramifications quite yet for what is a new pandemic. Wake me when a strain of HSV is caused by dry cough and touching something that was touched and then one picks their nose immediately afterward.

The only reason that they say hoax is because people who are popular on t.v. said the pandemic and virus was a hoax.

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There is a new issue involved with the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic.

Keep your kids and yourself protected at all times, hands, eyes and mouth or mouths.

The Perfect Storm of the Pandemic

How many politicians and law makers have thought about the other end of the pandemic spectrum?

Until there is a vaccine, there will not be an end date to pandemic.

Older people will not live into their 80's or 90's. The mortality rate will drop to around 70 or 75 if not lower.
So where is that Social Security reform for age 50? Because based on the way things are going, most people won't live past 70.
Those who were infected at an early age and survived will most likely see increased health issues as they get older.
Younger people will dread getting older for fear of dying in a bed due to the SARS-CoV-2 virus.
As the Republicans push getting back to work and more people become infected due to the experiment using "Herd Immunity," more Americans are likely to see increased health issues the older that they become.
They might get better but in the long run, those infected and who survive today, could be the countries next big die off in 30 years.
Even if there is a vaccine that is created within a few years, within those few years, based on herd immunity, 60-70% of the U.S. population will become infected as the hopes of the herd immunizing will slow or stop the virus.

When that 60-70% of the population that has been infected due to the grand experiment of herd immunity grows older and starts dying, the explosion of the infection and the pandemic in 2020 will result in an explosion of death.
The exponential infection rate of those being infected now will carry down the years to become an exponential rate of death that will see 25% of the population surviving.

Just like a wave, the pandemic is rushing over the country and infecting people. At the other end, when the wave recedes back into the ocean the number of dead will be epic.

A looming and gigantic disaster of epic proportions.

Therefore, the only remedy to ensure a total collapse in the future for all citizens of the U.S. to receive a $2,500 monthly stimulus check to keep the economy going, rent and utilities need to cancelled and all non-essential businesses shuttered until a vaccine has been developed.

The younger generations might make it through the exponential waves due to be being young, but when that old age wave hits, the ship will likely do down with all hands causing an even greater economic collapse then we are experiencing right now. The ship has a huge gash in its hull and is sinking but the engines are still functional, just enough, to steer the ship out of the way of the iceberg, dead ahead.
 
Heavy reinforcements emerging from warp.

I am providing not only a solution to protect Americans from Covid-19 disease while a vaccine is being developed tested, I am also providing a cost effective means for the worker to purchase lotion based protection that will generate a continuous need for the lotion until a vaccine has been created.

A product of continuous need that is low cost, will create jobs and put Americans back to work who can expect to be safe while at work or in the general public as well as giving personal designers the ability to develop their own brand of lotion, or spray on applique.

.Anti-SARS-CoV-2 Face and Body Deactivation Cream.

We know that hand soap de-activates the SARS-CoV-2 virus.

Therefore there should be a way for a skin care company to develop a skin based cream that when applied to the face, neck and arms, will inactivate the SARS-CoV-2 virus when the virus comes into contact with the cream that has been applied to the skin.

The lotion would have the same chemicals in its chemical composition that hand soap has that inactivates the SARS-CoV-2 virus while washing the hands.

When SARS-CoV-2 De-Activation Cream and Masks are worn out in the public and in the workforce, the SARS-CoV-2 vaccine will be eradicated from the U.S. within two years.

Unless the rest of the world complies with the above measures of eradicating the SARS-CoV-2 virus, the virus will continue to spread exponentially, however.

Anti-SARS-CoV-2 suntan lotion would also have to be developed as well.

Just give the lotion companies until the first of the year to develop the anti-Covid-19 cream.

After testing has proven effective with the first few waves not being infected, then the retaking of the Earth from Covid-19 can be begin sometime by the middle of next year.

Once the formula for the anti-deactivation has been approved for release to the consumer, people can make their lotions and ad the de-activator and sell their product on ETSY, as long as the customer selling the product has a verified seller's ID number granted to them from the U.S. government.
 
Heavy reinforcements emerging from warp.

I am providing not only a solution to protect Americans from Covid-19 disease while a vaccine is being developed tested, I am also providing a cost effective means for the worker to purchase lotion based protection that will generate a continuous need for the lotion until a vaccine has been created.

A product of continuous need that is low cost, will create jobs and put Americans back to work who can expect to be safe while at work or in the general public as well as giving personal designers the ability to develop their own brand of lotion, or spray on applique.

.Anti-SARS-CoV-2 Face and Body Deactivation Cream.

We know that hand soap de-activates the SARS-CoV-2 virus.

Therefore there should be a way for a skin care company to develop a skin based cream that when applied to the face, neck and arms, will inactivate the SARS-CoV-2 virus when the virus comes into contact with the cream that has been applied to the skin.

The lotion would have the same chemicals in its chemical composition that hand soap has that inactivates the SARS-CoV-2 virus while washing the hands.

When SARS-CoV-2 De-Activation Cream and Masks are worn out in the public and in the workforce, the SARS-CoV-2 vaccine will be eradicated from the U.S. within two years.

Unless the rest of the world complies with the above measures of eradicating the SARS-CoV-2 virus, the virus will continue to spread exponentially, however.

Anti-SARS-CoV-2 suntan lotion would also have to be developed as well.

Just give the lotion companies until the first of the year to develop the anti-Covid-19 cream.

After testing has proven effective with the first few waves not being infected, then the retaking of the Earth from Covid-19 can be begin sometime by the middle of next year.

Once the formula for the anti-deactivation has been approved for release to the consumer, people can make their lotions and ad the de-activator and sell their product on ETSY, as long as the customer selling the product has a verified seller's ID number granted to them from the U.S. government.

This is 100% complete nonsense, from start to finish.

It certainly doesn't belong in the Science and Technology forum, because it is neither.
 
Once the formula for the anti-deactivation has been approved for release to the consumer, people can make their lotions and ad the de-activator and sell their product on ETSY, as long as the customer selling the product has a verified seller's ID number granted to them from the U.S. government.
Does this mean I can stop with the bleach injections and UV bulbs up my arse?
 
Heavy reinforcements emerging from warp.

I am providing not only a solution to protect Americans from Covid-19 disease while a vaccine is being developed tested, I am also providing a cost effective means for the worker to purchase lotion based protection that will generate a continuous need for the lotion until a vaccine has been created.

A product of continuous need that is low cost, will create jobs and put Americans back to work who can expect to be safe while at work or in the general public as well as giving personal designers the ability to develop their own brand of lotion, or spray on applique.

.Anti-SARS-CoV-2 Face and Body Deactivation Cream.

We know that hand soap de-activates the SARS-CoV-2 virus.

Therefore there should be a way for a skin care company to develop a skin based cream that when applied to the face, neck and arms, will inactivate the SARS-CoV-2 virus when the virus comes into contact with the cream that has been applied to the skin.

The lotion would have the same chemicals in its chemical composition that hand soap has that inactivates the SARS-CoV-2 virus while washing the hands.

When SARS-CoV-2 De-Activation Cream and Masks are worn out in the public and in the workforce, the SARS-CoV-2 vaccine will be eradicated from the U.S. within two years.

Unless the rest of the world complies with the above measures of eradicating the SARS-CoV-2 virus, the virus will continue to spread exponentially, however.

Anti-SARS-CoV-2 suntan lotion would also have to be developed as well.

Just give the lotion companies until the first of the year to develop the anti-Covid-19 cream.

After testing has proven effective with the first few waves not being infected, then the retaking of the Earth from Covid-19 can be begin sometime by the middle of next year.

Once the formula for the anti-deactivation has been approved for release to the consumer, people can make their lotions and ad the de-activator and sell their product on ETSY, as long as the customer selling the product has a verified seller's ID number granted to them from the U.S. government.
Hand soap works only because it scrapes old skin, taking the virus (along with other viruses and germs, and particulates) along with them. The soap doesn't destroy the virus themselves.
 
Actually - real soap (aka Lye based) DOES kill the virus. It literally breaks the virus' shell down...

Otherwise, hogwash...
 
Radiation would kill the virus so I propose an all out release of all nuclear weapons at ONCE that will teach that stupid virus.. :biggrin::ouch:
 
It certainly doesn't belong in the Science and Technology forum, because it is neither.

Well, why don't you go ahead and report this stuff then instead of playing mini mod?
Consider this a friendly reminder.

Keeping the thread open... for now.

@Dryson Don't make me close yet another thread of yours. You really need to start writing less speculative fiction in the science forum.
 
Based on a report about five year old kids becoming sick after playing with ducks. Kids will pick up anything furry and fuzzy if you aren't paying attention.

Can children pass on the virus and what measures need to be taken?
Just because children are not as likely to develop major symptoms, or even any at all, does not mean they won't contract the coronavirus. Reingold said it's likely that the number of cases in children is underreported, in part because their symptoms are so minimal or mild, but he warned they can still infect others.


With children being less prone due to having fewer ACE(2) receptors in their nose means that their noses become like a missile launch bays full of SARS-CoV-2 virus. When the child sneezes or coughs, the Covid-19 launches, dispersing Covid-19 all over the place that creates a mine field for adults.

Children playing with other children who might be infected with SARS-CoV-2 sneezes or coughs on the other kid thus spreading the infection to the play friend who then passes it on to other family members.
Sneaky little virus.

A child that is less prone to Covid-19 will most likely sneeze more than they often do, which could be a sign that the child's body is trying to get of the SARS-CoV-2 virus.

I would also do a test to see which adults have fewer ACE(2) receptors in their body. Those who become infected with SARS-CoV-2 but never have to go to a hospital might have fewer ACE(2) receptors in their nose compared to someone who has to go to the hospital with full blown Covid-19.

Covid-19 is a piece of sh*t hiding in the kids like that. Let's find a way to take out Covid-19's Child Missile Factories before the Covid-19 find a way to secretly develop new viruses inside the kids noses.
Nose plugs for the little ones will help keep Covid-19 from finding its way into their bodies and then being transmitted to adults.

ACE2 expression in rat lung has been found to dramatically decrease with age.17 This finding may not be consistent with a relatively low susceptibility of children to COVID-19. However, studies show that ACE2 is involved in protective mechanisms of the lung. It may protect against severe lung injury induced by respiratory virus infection in an experimental mouse model and in pediatric patients. ACE2 also protects against severe acute lung injury that can be triggered by sepsis, acid aspiration, SARS, and lethal avian influenza A H5N1 virus infection.

I've been inside of a MOPP Level 4 Nuclear Biological and Chemical Warfare suit in the USMC as well as training. A poncho liner, a poncho liner is all we are given to keep the really nasty stuff from infecting and killing us.

SARS-CoV-2 is nothing to mess around with. It is comparable to Anthrax and even runs neck and neck with Weaponized Anthrax.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7102573/

https://www.aappublications.org/news/2020/03/16/coronavirus031620

https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-...--p7jUaZIAK4E5ZjPg3pY1XGe3X4-AG5Lu7Y-VYO4KeAg

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/11/health/coronavirus-children-sick/index.html
 
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