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Toy Story 3 trailer released
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Disney did their animated movies in themselves by making crap.
I mean, after Lion King did anything worth watching come out? Emperor's New Groove? Lilo and Stitch? Those were supposed to pass as great animated theatrical-release movies after the likes of The Lion King, Aladdin and Beauty and the Beast?
A case might be able to be made for Hercules and Pocahontas and maybe Tarzan but, for the most part I'd say then Disney stopped making animated movies worth seeing.
I don't know about anyone else, but I liked Mulan, which came out after The Lion King. I can see your point though, but I like the fact that a big christmas movie this year is a 2-D Disney animated movie, which is pretty much why I'm looking forward to it.
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Did you just suggest that Hercules, Tarzan, and Pocahontas are better than Emperor's New Groove and Lilo & Stitch? Yes, I would argue that exactly those two films have been best stuff that Disney has come out with since Lion King.
Please, ENG and L&S are servicable DTV movies at best.
The trailer looks very good, in a way I've come to expect from Pixar. Their films have often traded upon nostalgia for their emotional "oompf". But they remain successful because they treat it in different ways instead of telling the same old story over and over. I can honestly say that no Pixar film has ever disappointed me. I've enjoyed every single one, although a couple (The Incredibles, Ratatouille) took a little time to grow on me.
Cars is an interesting one for me. I thoroughly love the nostalgia treatment, because I've often taken that "longer path" on a driving trip purely so I could enjoy the scenery.
As an aside.... there's a "Cars 2"? It is a theatrical release isn't it?
Cars is an interesting one for me. I thoroughly love the nostalgia treatment, because I've often taken that "longer path" on a driving trip purely so I could enjoy the scenery.
As an aside.... there's a "Cars 2"? It is a theatrical release isn't it?
Cars 2 will be the 2011 Pixar movie.
Regarding Disney's post-Lion King output, I think they kept up a fairly good run of enjoyable films through the late 90s.
Pocahontas was good, with some great songs, if at times overly fantasy-history; Hunchback, despite a sometimes uneven tone (the goofy gargoyle musical number placed near the end really sticks out), has some very powerful stuff, including quite possibly the most evil best Disney villain of them all; Hercules is a fun pastiche of the myths; Mulan is probably the best of the post-LK era (and the most serious, by far); and Tarzan. Certainly, most of these films are a lot less inventive than the earlier ones (the formula is fairly well-established at this point), but they're all good (with some great music).
I hear Emperor's New Groove and Lilo & Stitch get strong reviews, but I haven't seen them.
As to the animation question, I don't think there's any kind of marketplace prejudice in place against CGI; after all, most TV animation is done in 2D style. CGI provides flash, of course, but it certainly looks like The Princess and the Frog will be a success.
Pocahontas was good, with some great songs, if at times overly fantasy-history; Hunchback, despite a sometimes uneven tone (the goofy gargoyle musical number placed near the end really sticks out), has some very powerful stuff, including quite possibly the most evil best Disney villain of them all; Hercules is a fun pastiche of the myths; Mulan is probably the best of the post-LK era (and the most serious, by far); and Tarzan. Certainly, most of these films are a lot less inventive than the earlier ones (the formula is fairly well-established at this point), but they're all good (with some great music).
I hear Emperor's New Groove and Lilo & Stitch get strong reviews, but I haven't seen them.
As to the animation question, I don't think there's any kind of marketplace prejudice in place against CGI; after all, most TV animation is done in 2D style. CGI provides flash, of course, but it certainly looks like The Princess and the Frog will be a success.
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Bullshit. Mayazaki has shown that cell animated flicks are wonderful and people accept them.
As for Emperor's New Groove and Lilo and Stitch...both are very excellent films.
I still haven't seen Emporers new Grove or Lilo and Stitch. Maybe the excitement of Princess and the Frog will get me motivated to see those two movies.
Of the post-Lion King Disney flicks, "Mulan" was far and away my favorite. I much prefer it over the others, with the exception of "Beauty and the Beast". It's all because of the story portrayed - dedication to others instead of to the central figure themselves for once.
That'll be why the Simpsons movie bombed then?
No-one is sick of 2D animated movies or against them in principle, it's just that, for the last decade or so, the best that has emerged in the animation sector has been '3D' Shrek/Pixar style stuff. If 2D cell animation films were made that didn't blow goats, they'd be successful. Kids don't care that the animation looks 'old fashioned', most Saturday morning kids' cartoons are still in that format, they're used to it.
Lilo & Stitch was a good movie, but it didn't have the same feel to it as the other Disney classics. It lead to a decent TV show and a few OK sequels. As a whole the franchise was good, but it's not a masterpiece.
Also Cars 2 is only being made for toys. It does come out in 2011, but 2011 will be the first year that two Pixar movies are released. On Xmas 2011 The Bear and the Bow is released.
Also Cars 2 is only being made for toys. It does come out in 2011, but 2011 will be the first year that two Pixar movies are released. On Xmas 2011 The Bear and the Bow is released.
Yeah, doing Cars 2 reeks of comercialism. 
It was an OK movie, but hardly one with characters, plot, premise or setting worthy of revisiting.
I'd rather them revisit The Incredibles.
It was an OK movie, but hardly one with characters, plot, premise or setting worthy of revisiting.
I'd rather them revisit The Incredibles.
I would too, but that's Brad Bird's baby, and he's not interested, from what I've heard.
There's certainly plenty of merit in Disney's post Lion King stuff. Hercules is just a load of fun. James Woods as Hades is perhaps the most hilarious Disney villain ever. Hunchback of Notre Dame has "Hellfire." That song is perhaps the most adult, and intense song ever heard in a Disney film. I recall getting into a discussion with my mother about Disney movies, and she brought up that song as one that she thought was fantastic, but was very glad that my brothers and I were too young to understand it at the time. Looking back at it now, it's perhaps one of my absolute favorite songs from a Disney movie. The incredibly memorable voice of the late Tony Jay certainly helps as well.
Pocahontas....well, most people do agree that one is crap. The history is just terrible, and I'll bet you most children know the fake-story better than the real one. Mulan is also very good. It's one problem is it's lack of any real memorable music. Still, I enjoyed the artistic style, and it's the most serious of that era's films. Emperor's New Groove is just plain fun from start to finish. Is it a classic? No, but pop it in and you'll have a good time for an hour and half. Same thing with Lilo & Stitch.
Home on The Range, on the other hand, really doesn't have a single saving grace.
Pocahontas....well, most people do agree that one is crap. The history is just terrible, and I'll bet you most children know the fake-story better than the real one. Mulan is also very good. It's one problem is it's lack of any real memorable music. Still, I enjoyed the artistic style, and it's the most serious of that era's films. Emperor's New Groove is just plain fun from start to finish. Is it a classic? No, but pop it in and you'll have a good time for an hour and half. Same thing with Lilo & Stitch.
Home on The Range, on the other hand, really doesn't have a single saving grace.
isnt James Cameron releasing a cgi "reimagining" of Pocahontas later this year? 
as for Pixar, my top 5 are the first 2 Toy Storys, Incredibles, Rattatouille, & Finding Nemo. But Ive enjoyed all the Pixars to some degree & have them all on dvd. And even though I wasnt too wowed with Up, I remember feeling the same way about Cars when I first saw it, but on 2nd viewing enjoyed it much more.
what I love about Pixar is how genuine & timeless the story & characters are, as compared to say, the
Dreamworks CGI fims. The last DW CGI flick I saw was Madagascar, which left such a bad taste in my mouth b/c I coud just see how badly it wanted to be hip & wow you away with the celebrity voices yakking it up & the obnoxious pop music. I feel that way about the Shrek films too. They are so slick, hollow & calculated...
as for Disney 2d films Ive loved them all, I even loved Atlantis & Treasure Planet. I cant wait for Princess & the Frog!
as for Pixar, my top 5 are the first 2 Toy Storys, Incredibles, Rattatouille, & Finding Nemo. But Ive enjoyed all the Pixars to some degree & have them all on dvd. And even though I wasnt too wowed with Up, I remember feeling the same way about Cars when I first saw it, but on 2nd viewing enjoyed it much more.
what I love about Pixar is how genuine & timeless the story & characters are, as compared to say, the
Dreamworks CGI fims. The last DW CGI flick I saw was Madagascar, which left such a bad taste in my mouth b/c I coud just see how badly it wanted to be hip & wow you away with the celebrity voices yakking it up & the obnoxious pop music. I feel that way about the Shrek films too. They are so slick, hollow & calculated...
as for Disney 2d films Ive loved them all, I even loved Atlantis & Treasure Planet. I cant wait for Princess & the Frog!
Yeah, it's not every day that Disney has a villain's dilemma to be obtaining God's permission to marry or kill the woman he wants to fuck.
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