CBS as well as the other sites seem to feature the TOS remastered, which of course includes music/ sound redone also. Are the original, not remastered versions (essentially what we had on the VHS versions) available for streaming anywhere? Thanks
TOS VHS streaming available anywhere?
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Thanks but what has been posted so far are for the remastered versions. Still on the search for streaming versions not remastered.
Perhaps I wasn't clear enough and please pardon me for the error. I was looking for the episodes that had nothing-- not visual or audio-- enhanced beyond anything standard, such as increasing picture/ sound quality. Nearly all of the ones at CBS/ Utube have remastered sound effects tracks.
Anyway, it doesn't really matter anymore anyway as I went back to my old VHS tapes, in a difficult to access storage spot, to find what I was looking for. Unfortunately, the sounds of TOS in the remastered format sometimes differ significantly from the original and could not be used.
I appreciate the replies here though as I did find something significant: In Requiem for Methuselah there seems to be 20 sec or so of dialogue between Kirk/ Flint that does not appear on my Paramount VHS version, nor the version I recorded off the air years ago.
I did also and still have plenty of the TV VHS's I recorded of TOS many years ago. Then I got smarter (and a little more funding) and replaced many of my poor copies with Paramount VHS's. As far as I can tell, the Paramount VHS's (as well as the laserdics probably) were the last of the true originals in native format. By the time even the first DVD's came along, they had already manipulated the sound tracks in an effort to add more realism.
I'm not sure, but I think the earliest web streams of TOS didn't have manipulated sound tracks, but this was quite some time ago.
I guess we have to take it for what it is. I do think the video quality of the latest remasters is extraordinary and I may eventually obtain them just for that reason, but I don't like what was done to the sound.
Just to clear things up a little -- or perhaps confuse things more -- the episodes on VHS weren't the original network broadcast versions. They were remastered as well. The original versions have, to my knowledge, never been released in any commercially available form. So if you're watching the episodes on VHS and think you're seeing the originals, you aren't.
I was going to say no to either source.
CBS would be unlikely to put up a withered version of one of their own shows if they didn't have to, and it would be more convenient for a fan at home to rip a DVD than a VHS copy.
You're absolutely correct, I've been saying that for years. They're "close" but they are still not the originals.
However, the very first VHS tapes, with the two unrelated episodes, MAY have been the originals, just missing the previews. The quality of print was pretty "eh", not nearly as good as the rerlease on the Paramount VHS/LDs and Columbia House VHS. But there were only liek 10 episodes released and The Menagerie was missing the "to be continued" and end credits in the first half.
What was "remastered," or changed on the original VHS versions? I never owned them; just curious. Thanks.
Doug
What was remastered? The entire series, several times since the sixties. What was changed? That I can't tell you. I got rid of my VHS collection a almost couple decades ago. Maybe Ssosmcin can help. I thought I remember someone posting a list of certain episode changes from the network versions to VHS to DVD to bluray, but I don't remember in which thread it was and it was by no means a complete list.
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