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TOS Turbolift

The one in the Star Trek V turbolift car may be a rotating light barrel. They could even use the sound from the barrel as that made by the Enterprise-A turbolift car moving up the shafts.
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Just wanted to make mention that the turbolift deck lights in "The Corbomite Maneuver" are some of my favorite. Four lines being visible is a cool variation on the theme.
Sorry, that was a composite image I created from 4 different screenshots!
Unless you meant the shadow lines in WNMHGB?

What if it was a scroll and not a continuous loop? That would mean it could show movement for only a limited period, not indefinitely. But what's the maximum number of deck/bulkhead marks that can be seen scrolling by in a single shot?

Since the back would be free and open to simplify lighting, that seems like it might be the simplest solution.
There's still the issue of the varied light intensity (and size) of the light strips - this is not something you'd see on a straight conveyor belt system.
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YMMV; that in itself mildly surprises me. :shrug:I sense the usual explanation will be that they didn't know they were working on something that would still be remembered—let alone revered—60 years later, but these folks clearly took pride in their work and said work was amazing. I know there a hundred logical explanations. It still bemuses me a bit.
Hollywood for quite a time wasn't about showing the man behind the curtain, ergo you rarely saw photos of the sets' backsides because of fears it might ruin the illusion. There are some, sure, but those are mostly candids shot by cast and crew and not the on-set photographers. You never quite look at SHADO the same after the UFO episode that shows the sets as sets.
 
The one in the Star Trek V turbolift car may be a rotating light barrel. They could even use the sound from the barrel as that made by the Enterprise-A turbolift car moving up the shafts.
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That looks like a CRT on its side.
 
Hmmm. Maybe it was. In 1988 it shouldn't have been too hard to project a rolling screensaver or scrolling lines on a CRT tube, even with the monitors of the time.
 
The one in the Star Trek V turbolift car may be a rotating light barrel. They could even use the sound from the barrel as that made by the Enterprise-A turbolift car moving up the shafts.
Movie and TV sound doesn't work that way. Normally only the dialogue spoken on-camera by the actors is recorded live (and even much of that has to be re-recorded or "looped"). All the other sounds you hear are done in post-production.
 
About that image of Kirk in the turbolift, it is kind of bemusing to me.

Aren't there any, in-universe, regulations against a crewman being shirtless in the public spaces of a starship? Aren't the crew expected to maintain a professional appearance in public spaces?

Or was Kirk merely exercising his captain's prerogative in that scene, dressing -- or not dressing -- however he pleased?

Or, I suppose, the draping of a towel and shirt over his otherwise bare torso could be interpreted as Kirk not being shirtless at all, if one wants to make that interpretation.

Or perhaps the real world reason whether Kirk goes shirtless, or not, depends on the needs of the plot and the whims of William Shatner?



In any case, I hope that, in-universe, there are fans of some sort in the turbolift to give the car proper ventilation to remove stagnant, sweaty or any other unpleasant air that might be present in the turbolift.
 
About that image of Kirk in the turbolift, it is kind of bemusing to me.

Aren't there any, in-universe, regulations against a crewman being shirtless in the public spaces of a starship? Aren't the crew expected to maintain a professional appearance in public spaces?

Or was Kirk merely exercising his captain's prerogative in that scene, dressing -- or not dressing -- however he pleased?

Or, I suppose, the draping of a towel and shirt over his otherwise bare torso could be interpreted as Kirk not being shirtless at all, if one wants to make that interpretation.

Or perhaps the real world reason whether Kirk goes shirtless, or not, depends on the needs of the plot and the whims of William Shatner?



In any case, I hope that, in-universe, there are fans of some sort in the turbolift to give the car proper ventilation to remove stagnant, sweaty or any other unpleasant air that might be present in the turbolift.
I simply took it as a demonstration to the contemporary 1960s audience that Starfleet isn't like their military - people are free to be themselves without judgement. After all; prior to changing the turbolift's direction to his quarters, Kirk was apparently intending to present himself on the Bridge like that!
 
His priorities seem logical to me. Becomes aware of red alert, immediately calls the bridge. Learns enough to know he needs to head there, grabs his clothes and takes off. Realizing the limiting factor is turbolift speed, he wants to get that started as quickly as possible. He enters the lift and says "bridge" because in a worst-case scenario that's the clock he wants to start ticking down now, not the clock to his quarters. Then calls the bridge again to assess urgency, decides he has time to get fresh clothes, says so to Spock, and downgrades to the less urgent path.

Had the urgency been greater, the quarters scene (and dialog about changing) would have been omitted. The captain does still possess his (less than fresh) tunic, so surely he would have suited up during the remainder of the lift ride. As the director in this alternate version, however, I would not show this happening in the lift. When the cab arrives at the bridge, instead of the existing perspective from behind Kirk, I'd have kept the camera shooting over Bailey's shoulder toward the lift and had Kirk just finishing donning his tunic, pulling it down the last few inches and straightening it up around the waistline, as the doors opened.
 
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It came across to me as a really peculiar looking scene, maybe because I can't remember any other time when Kirk walked around the ship shirtless.

Kirk definitely was the odd man out, as he strutted down the hallway, from sickbay to the turbolift, in that state of undress.

The precious moments that Kirk took to, rightfully, chew out McCoy for not notifying him of the red alert, Kirk could have put on his shirt. C'mon, it doesn't take that long to slip on a tunic, even if he might have been a bit sweaty.

I guess the writers (don't know if Shatner had any input about Kirk's state of dress for that scene) wanted to convey a sense of extreme urgency by having the scene play out the way it did. But it didn't really come across that way to me.



This also reminded me of another turbolift scene. I'm talking about the turbolift scene in TWOK where Kirk questioned Saavik about whether her hair grooming conformed with regulation. Maintaining professional decorum on the ship seems to matter until it doesn't matter, I suppose.
 
I guess the writers (don't know if Shatner had any input about Kirk's state of dress for that scene) wanted to convey a sense of extreme urgency by having the scene play out the way it did. But it didn't really come across that way to me.

More likely they wanted to boost ratings among female viewers by getting their male lead's shirt off frequently. At the time, they figured the big draw for the ladies would be Shatner, rather than Nimoy as it turned out.


I'm talking about the turbolift scene in TWOK where Kirk questioned Saavik about whether her hair grooming conformed with regulation.

Not exactly.

KIRK: Lieutenant, are you wearing your hair differently?
SAAVIK: It is still regulation, Admiral.


Kirk was just making conversation. It was Saavik who interpreted it as a question about regulations. Later, McCoy also commented on her new hairstyle, and Kirk said "I hadn't noticed." There was probably a subtext of the men noticing her attractiveness, and Kirk pretending to be unmoved by it.
 
More likely they wanted to boost ratings among female viewers by getting their male lead's shirt off frequently. At the time, they figured the big draw for the ladies would be Shatner, rather than Nimoy as it turned out.
Do you know if Shatner himself ever encouraged the episode directors or writers to direct or write scenes so Kirk would be shirtless?

I read some articles which reported that Shatner was more than happy to go shirtless early on in the series but maybe not so much later on.
 
He's shirtless in "Turnabout Intruder," but in the series finale he's Janice Lester in Kirk's body in addition to being subjected to a Sickbay dermal exam, so the sexiness factor was ramped down on both counts.
 
Do you know if Shatner himself ever encouraged the episode directors or writers to direct or write scenes so Kirk would be shirtless?

I don't see the point of trying to pin it on an actor. It was hardly uncommon in '60s TV for male leads to take their shirts off a lot. The impetus probably came more from the sponsors and executives wanting to get housewives watching their shows, along with the attached commercials for laundry soap, kitchen appliances, cleaning supplies, and whatnot.
 
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