TOS/Trek XI question!

[theenglish]

To me it is very obvious that the people making this version chose to ignore or were ignorant about a number of details of Trek Canon and then tried to write an explanation for why things could be "different".

The people they were writing it for are totally ignorant of canon: the general public. And ST canon only ever mattered for the authors and editors preparing material to be included in licensed tie-in merchandise, such as original novels and comics.

And some of the more obsessed fans.

I disagree. Every fictional/fantasy universe has certain internal rules that need to be followed in order for the universe to be believable. Now, if the movie were a complete reboot (like the Mission Impossible movies or Battlestar Galactica, for example) then you can play with those rules. But the movie goes to great lengths to say that this is not the case--yet suddenly, the transporters work ultra fast and over incredibly vast distances, everyone wears an Enterprise emblem, Spock never served on the Enterprise twelve years earlier, and a variety of other things that are pretty well established within the Trek universe.

 

[Vicki]

I didn't know whether to post this here or in the TOS board, but here goes, I will try not to put spoilers but I assume everyone knows the basics (alternate timeline, etc)

My question is this, the alternate timeline that was created mainly had an effect on earth and Kirk's upbringing, and I cannot figure out what effect it could possibly have had on Vulcan BEFORE Spock left for the academy. In the TOS episode Amok Time it's made clear that Spock was betrothed to T'Pring in childhood (less than a marriage, more than a betrothal,) to be reunited at some point in the future. The movie, however, kinda ignores this and pairs Spock up, as we know.
Will there be an angry T'Pring in a few movies time?

Probably not much effect on ~Vulcan~ but Amamda grew up on Earth and Sarek spent time there. All kinds of things got butterflied and their experiences on Earth are fair game. nuSarek was fine with eleven year old nuSpock following either path which implies no betrothal.

 

[Vicki]

The easiest thing to do is simply forget everything you know about Star Trek before watching this movie and enjoy it for what it is. To me it is very obvious that the people making this version chose to ignore or were ignorant about a number of details of Trek Canon and then tried to write an explanation for why things could be "different".

The movie would have been much more enjoyable for me if it had just been stated that this is a comlete reboot of the franchise.

This is a complete reboot. It's not TOS's past, it's the destroyed Kelvin's future.

FWIW, at the start going into the project, Abrams is on record as prefering Star Wars growing up but he seen Trek. The producers/writers as a group ranged from hard core Trekker to one guy who knew nothing about Trek and served as their go to guy for "does this make sense" questions.

The script is credited to a hard core Trekker and a guy who is described as familiar with Trek.

 

[Anticitizen]

In the TOS episode Amok Time it's made clear that Spock was betrothed to T'Pring in childhood (less than a marriage, more than a betrothal,) to be reunited at some point in the future.

Don't forget that original timeline Spock has had other female interests, such as Leila Kalomi, a relationship rekindled in "This Side of Paradise" (TOS).

A bit of a stretch to dub that a 'rekindling' of a relationship, I should think; it was an episode of unrequited love for Leila (until Spock got spore'd).