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TOS Remastered

I don't know. I don't care what your budget is, you probably aren't chucking real rock boulders at stuntmen from fifteen feet up.
 
Then take Star Trek out of the equation. Many times I've popped in a high def video of an old SF show and suddenly I can spot the wires holding up a model or an actor simulating weightlessness.

2001 is a perfect example of this. We all know that the "Dawn of Man" sequences were shot inside, on a studio floor, and the outdoorsy backgrounds were projections on a screen. But it wasn't until the Blu-Ray release that this became a problem: it is now possible to SEE the screen that was projected upon! This is painfully obvious in all the ape sequences. You literally can see the screen that is behind the sky.
 
Technically better? Yes. Better, more engaging experience? Debatable.

The biggest problem with the re-mastering (apart from the fact that it was done at all) was how tastelessly it was done. The original bright lighting was needlessly shadowed by people who thought they were making the show more dramatic-instead they only succeeded in making the show look silly. & you can't reverse engineer the image to get the original look
 
Technically better? Yes. Better, more engaging experience? Debatable.

The biggest problem with the re-mastering (apart from the fact that it was done at all) was how tastelessly it was done. The original bright lighting was needlessly shadowed by people who thought they were making the show more dramatic-instead they only succeeded in making the show look silly. & you can't reverse engineer the image to get the original look

This makes no sense.
Are you actually saying it's not possible to show what was originally captured on film?
 
The original bright lighting was needlessly shadowed by people who thought they were making the show more dramatic-instead they only succeeded in making the show look silly. & you can't reverse engineer the image to get the original look

Are you actually saying it's not possible to show what was originally captured on film?

Yes (at least if you're a viewer trying to watch the show at home). You can't twiddle the nobs on your screen to remove the big dramatic shadow someone brilliant has decided to impose on Kirk's face. It's there, uselessly, & on these digital prints, permanently

It's like colourisation-supposedly a process which only adds colour to black & white footage but which also changes all the dynamic shadings of the original, turning clear lines into balloony blancmange. A solution in desperate search for something ressembling a problem to solve
 
You can't twiddle the nobs on your screen to remove the big dramatic shadow someone brilliant has decided to impose on Kirk's face. It's there, uselessly, & on these digital prints, permanently

If it's visible on the BluRays it's always been there on film.
 
The original bright lighting was needlessly shadowed by people who thought they were making the show more dramatic-instead they only succeeded in making the show look silly. & you can't reverse engineer the image to get the original look

Are you actually saying it's not possible to show what was originally captured on film?

Yes (at least if you're a viewer trying to watch the show at home). You can't twiddle the nobs on your screen to remove the big dramatic shadow someone brilliant has decided to impose on Kirk's face. It's there, uselessly, & on these digital prints, permanently

It's like colourisation-supposedly a process which only adds colour to black & white footage but which also changes all the dynamic shadings of the original, turning clear lines into balloony blancmange. A solution in desperate search for something ressembling a problem to solve

The live-action elements were scanned and cleaned, only. There were no changes unless there was special effects in a given scene.
 
The original bright lighting was needlessly shadowed

Huh? Please give examples of scenes where the original bright lighting was shadowed.

Attempted to watch the remastered episodes when they briefly screened here (.au) last year. Didn't encourage to keep doing so, certainly didn't encourage me to buy DVD prints of the shows, so it's very difficult for me to go chapter & verse on the changed look much as i'd like to

My apologies
 
I think what he thinks of as bright lighting is actually the faded nature of the old prints.

It's kind of like when the BBC finally started running new prints of TOS. Initially, they ran the episodes at a slightly faster speed, making them sound to these American ears somewhat like the Chipmunks. When they started running them at the proper speed, the British fans thought they all sounded drunk, because they'd all grown up hearing the faster versions.
 
^ That also works in the other direction. I have Law & Order: UK on Region 1 DVD, and I swear the characters' voices sound lower than what they should be. I think this must be because of the different frame rates between PAL and NTSC.

Now I want a blancmange.

Just don't try to play tennis while eating it. ;)

Does that come with wafers?

Course you don't get bloody WAFERS with it!

(Albatross?)
 
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