TOS-R Antares Image Available at Startrek.com

[Avro Arrow]

Here she is...

USS Antares

Reminds me a lot of the robot cargo ships from TAS "More Tribbles, More Troubles" (although it is not identical). Nice touch... but I've got to admit, it's not what I expected!

I can't read the registry on the nacelle...

 

[Anthony]

It's exactly what I expected, right down to the last detail. That ^%$# about TAS being ::choke:: non-canon are now basically ridiculous, as I always maintained.

Ah, the glory days...

 

[Timo]

Not quite "last detail": there is no sensor/deflector dish at the bow here, and the bridge area is a bit different.

I'm hoping this won't be registered NCC-501, because I like my Franz Joseph ships. Or if it does carry that label, I'll just see NCC-S01 there...

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Anthony]

I didn't mean that literally, you realize. Franz Joseph is one of my great heroes, too; but, I like this configuration even better.

Ah, the glory days still...

 

[Timo]

Ah, what I meant was that NCC-501 is already taken by one of FJ's destroyers. I'm cool with this design as such, as long as it gets a "plausible" registry. Perhaps something in the NCC-1400 range, to go with the NCC-G1400 codes of the droneships?

Also, on second thought, the Antares appears to be more or less exactly the TAS droneship, only with an angular "crew module" bolted onto the bow, in place of the sensor dish. Todd Guenther once interpreted the cargo drone as a cluster of optional cargo hold modules, and the existence of a dedicated crew module would well fit that interpretation. The Antares seen here would have just two modules in place: forward lower bulk cargo hold plus crew module.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[AC84]

Timo said:
Not quite "last detail": there is no sensor/deflector dish at the bow here

Actually, there is. If you look close enough. It isn't in the same place as in the TAS robot cargo ships, that's for sure. It's more ventral bow.

 

[Timo]

Right; seems it had to be moved when the crew section was added to the drone.

Anybody figure out the registry yet?

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Ronald Held]

Thanks for the link. Does anyone know the registry?

 

[Rat Boy]

I'm surprised no one's flipping out because it doesn't look like the design from the Star Trek Concordance.


StarTrek.com claims that this is based on the Woden design, adding bits here and there. Obviously they don't mean the original, since that was just a reuse of the DY-100. Chances are that the Woden when it debuts in "The Ultimate Computer" will look almost exactly like this or exactly like the drone freighters from TAS, the latter of which would make sense.

 

[jep316]

I thought I try to throw together a quick and dirty "cut and paste" job comparing the TAS Automated transport and the Antares....

With a little different touches they pretty much have used the original design with an added crew section and if the Woden in the Ultimate Computer turns out to be the Automated transport then Spock's statement about it being converted to automation would fit with the ideal they removed the crew section.

 

[Lieut. Arex]

Rat Boy said:
I'm surprised no one's flipping out because it doesn't look like the design from the Star Trek Concordance.

I'm not surprised they went this way. Paramount owns the designs for the drone transports and the Huron (perhaps a better choice for Antares) from TAS whereas they don't control the fan design.

My feelings about TOS-R aside, it's nice to see a TAS ship on screen.

 

[payndz201]

The stealth recanonisation of TAS continues apace. Are there any as-yet unseen ships that could be modelled on the USS Huron?

The Enterprise looks really good in that picture, BTW - something about the lighting. It doesn't have the over-glossy CG sheen that a lot of the TOS-R shots have featured.

 

[David cgc]

They've been getting better and better with lighting the ship with every passing week. It's a pity that Paramount is insisting on rushing TOS-R to DVD. By all rights, once the first run of the remastered episodes is over, the effects guys should be able to go back over all of the stuff they did before and apply what they've learned in the meantime.

 

[Lieut. Arex]

Beagle could have been. I think the Huron design's too utilitarian for the Astral Queen, if they decide to show her. Though I think it'd be too large, it could work as Harry Mudd's ship in "Mudd's Women" (I'd prefer something closer to Carter Winston's ship in "The Survivor"). It'd be a better fit as the Aurora in "Way to Eden".

 

[ancient]

Very sweet!!

 

[Warped9]

Hey, TAS was already canon as far as I'm concerned. But why did they use a ROBOT ship from "More Tribbles, More Troubles" instead of the Huron type from "The Pirates Of Orion"?

Then again they do have an additional section affixed to the front end. Hmm. Interesting...

This may actually be one of the very few better things they've done.

 

[Therin of Andor]

payndz201 said:
The stealth recanonisation of TAS continues apace.

Stealth? They don't have to hide from anyone. ST production staff have always been able to cherrypick what was useful from TAS.

It was the licensed tie-ins that were told to avoid TAS references via "that memo", during the period 1989-1991.

 

[SeerSGB]

sweeeetness. One of the better changes made to TOS

 

[Irishman]

How does TOS-R depicting a chop-job using its inspiration from a minor ship in TAS a validation of the canonicity of the entire series?

 

[Timo]

Who says it is?

Then again, TNG does no more to validate the canonicity of TOS. A few name-drops of characters or locations, or the occasional cameo, nothing conclusive as such.

Timo Saloniemi