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TOS myths and misconceptions...

^^ Uhh...no.

McCoy seems to be giving a little nod of affirmation to Spock's remark. Just as we know the first world war as World War I in it's time and for sometime after it was known as The Great War. And Spock appears to agree rather than appear in anyway miffed that he's been corrected.

As a Vulcan he shouldn't feel miffed about being corrected. To each his own on this interpretation. By seeing it the way I do, and there is no crime in it, it leave continuity intact.

It works for me. :)
 
^^ Uhh...no.

McCoy seems to be giving a little nod of affirmation to Spock's remark. Just as we know the first world war as World War I in it's time and for sometime after it was known as The Great War. And Spock appears to agree rather than appear in anyway miffed that he's been corrected.

As a Vulcan he shouldn't feel miffed about being corrected. To each his own on this interpretation. By seeing it the way I do, and there is no crime in it, it leave continuity intact.

It works for me. :)
Spock gets miffed. Look at WNMHGB, he's less than pleased Kirk beat him at chess.
 
^^ Uhh...no.

McCoy seems to be giving a little nod of affirmation to Spock's remark. Just as we know the first world war as World War I in it's time and for sometime after it was known as The Great War. And Spock appears to agree rather than appear in anyway miffed that he's been corrected.

As a Vulcan he shouldn't feel miffed about being corrected. To each his own on this interpretation. By seeing it the way I do, and there is no crime in it, it leave continuity intact.

It works for me. :)
Spock gets miffed. Look at WNMHGB, he's less than pleased Kirk beat him at chess.

Yes, there were times when Spock got miffed/annoyed with humans and there were times he didn't.
 
As a Vulcan he shouldn't feel miffed about being corrected. To each his own on this interpretation. By seeing it the way I do, and there is no crime in it, it leave continuity intact.

It works for me. :)
Spock gets miffed. Look at WNMHGB, he's less than pleased Kirk beat him at chess.

Yes, there were times when Spock got miffed/annoyed with humans and there were times he didn't.

[sarek]So...human[/sarek]
 
MISCONCEPTION: USS Enterprise had a clearly defined chain of command.
Yes, Kirk was captain, and Spock was first officer...that is as clearly define as it got. During the first season however, whoever was next solely depended upon who was left in charge as officer of the deck. By the end of season two, Scotty was seen by most as the ship's second officer. However in season one's Arena and Errand of Mercy, Sulu is left in command despite the understanding that Scotty had to be somewhere aboard.
 
MISCONCEPTION: USS Enterprise had a clearly defined chain of command.
Yes, Kirk was captain, and Spock was first officer...that is as clearly define as it got. During the first season however, whoever was next solely depended upon who was left in charge as officer of the deck. By the end of season two, Scotty was seen by most as the ship's second officer. However in season one's Arena and Errand of Mercy, Sulu is left in command despite the understanding that Scotty had to be somewhere aboard.

There's a fairly recent thread on this somewhere.
 
There's a fairly recent thread on this somewhere.
Most of the topics in this thread have been hammered out around here at some time. Such as...

Myth: Number One was her real name.

Misconception: Number One was only her position in the Enterprise's chain of command.

We've beaten these to death over the years. Several writers for the Pocket Book series fell into the trapping myth that Number One was a member of a genetically-engineered race. Well, that sounded all fine and good, but there was insufficient on-screen data to prove it. On the other hand due to naval history, a misconception has followed that Number One only applies to the female lieutenant's status in the Enterprise's chain of command. Yes, TNG retro'ed through The Cage to naval history to make this to be a position, but that leaves us speculating as to the actual name of the individual who serves as first officer to Pike. The 1964 Star Trek pitch manual simply states that she is only known as "Number One". Although I probably would prefer a combination of the myth and the misconception where she is an alien-born officer whose name was a symbol...sort of like the artist formerly known as Prince.
 
. . . Yes, TNG retro'ed through The Cage to naval history to make this to be a position, but that leaves us speculating as to the actual name of the individual who serves as first officer to Pike. The 1964 Star Trek pitch manual simply states that she is only known as "Number One". Although I probably would prefer a combination of the myth and the misconception where she is an alien-born officer whose name was a symbol...sort of like the artist formerly known as Prince.
Or like Spock's apocryphal "other" name, which is unpronounceable to humans.

I thought perhaps "Number One" was a nickname she acquired as a child, when she had to go to the bathroom a lot. :p
 
Several writers for the Pocket Book series fell into the trapping myth that Number One was a member of a genetically-engineered race. Well, that sounded all fine and good, but there was insufficient on-screen data to prove it.

According to DC Fontana, this was the backstory developed by Majel Barrett during pre-production of "The Cage". Actors often develop an unpublished backstory for a character they will play; it helps them get a handle on the character's personality, star sign, experiences, etc - although they know that future scripts may overwrite some of their original ideas. (Whoopi Goldberg did the same for Guinan, developing her own take on how Picard and Guinan met, which she has never revealed to anyone.) Fontana then made use of Majel Barrett's take on the character of Number One when writing her ST novel, "Vulcan's Glory". So it was hardly a "trapping myth".

If Roddenberry had intended for Number One to have a name it would probably have been in the writers' bible he'd developed. (ie. The VOY writers' bible pre-empts that the EMH would one day take on the name of "Zimmerman", which of course he never actually does.)
 
Or like Spock's apocryphal "other" name, which is unpronounceable to humans.
I remember seeing that somewhere in a Star Trek novel...it was all consonants...:lol::vulcan:

I thought perhaps "Number One" was a nickname she acquired as a child, when she had to go to the bathroom a lot. :p
That would explain why she couldn't join the landing party
 
I remember seeing that somewhere in a Star Trek novel...it was all consonants...:lol::vulcan:

Not a novel. The prozine, "USS Enterprise Officer's Manual". The name was developed as a bit of a joke at one of the big Los Angeles Star Trek conventions. The surname was: Xtmprszntwfd.

The Star Trek novel "Ishmael" gave him the full name of S'chn T'gai Spock.
 
Not a novel. The prozine, "USS Enterprise Officer's Manual". The name was developed as a bit of a joke at one of the big Los Angeles Star Trek conventions. The surname was: Xtmprszntwfd.
That's the one! I knew it started with an X.
The Star Trek novel "Ishmael" gave him the full name of S'chn T'gai Spock.
I remember reading that one.

The X-name is definitely in line with the on-screen "you couldn't pronounce it" statement in This Side of Paradise, but it is NOT on-screen.
 
Therin of Andor said:
Not a novel. The prozine, "USS Enterprise Officer's Manual". The name was developed as a bit of a joke at one of the big Los Angeles Star Trek conventions. The surname was: Xtmprszntwfd.
Just make sure he never says it backwards.
 
Therin of Andor said:
Not a novel. The prozine, "USS Enterprise Officer's Manual". The name was developed as a bit of a joke at one of the big Los Angeles Star Trek conventions. The surname was: Xtmprszntwfd.
Just make sure he never says it backwards.
That would certainly send him to another dimension...:vulcan::lol:
 
The second one is internally contradictory: Pike isn't used to a woman on the Bridge, but his First Officer is a woman. This shows that Pike doesn't think about Number One as a potential mate, just as a fellow officer (but apparently he does consider this new Yeoman as a potential mate, and that's what bothers him about her).

Plus Pike was standing next to another woman on the bridge nor more then five minutes earlier.

No one is cooking up anything. You just haven't proven your case. The Janice Lester things doesn't hold water. And in that episode Kirk (in Lester's body) says it: Lester couldn't command because of lack of training and temperament. The episode shows she's unstable and erratic. She obviously didn't have the temperament (amongst other things) as an individual to command. There's nothing in there about gender.

You know I believe if was said in another episode of TOS that Starship Captains have to pass a psych test, considering Lester was nuts she probably wouldn't have passed so starfleet wouldn't want her in command of a starship just to avoid any incidents like what almost happened with Garth.
 
Lester deciding to blame her own gender instead of the fact that she couldn't cut it personally is sort of an extreme version the guy who gets turned down by a woman and then decides it must be because she's a lesbian, and it's not because he's a jackass.
 
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