TOS myths and misconceptions...

[3D Master]

No - the Phasers were ONLY cut off because the Warp Engines were in 'anti-matter' imbalance; because the new phaser design channeled phaser power through the warp engines. The fact they were at FTL speed or sublight speed made no difference. The 'no phasers at warp' was something stated in one of the TNG era TV series.

Nope. At best it was in a Technical Manual, but I'm not even sure that's true.

Anyway, one thing Voyager got right: in Non Sequitur a Nebula-class fires a phaser at warp at the experimental shuttle that Paris and Garrett Wang are in. (For some reason the Ensign's name refused to come up.)

 

[Brutal Strudel]

He didn't have to do anything. Miniskirts at the time were more than a fashion, they were symbol of feminism and the empowerment of women. (The miniskirt was invented/designed by a woman as well incidentally.) Grace Lee Whitney who played Janice Rand suggested they wear miniskirts pretty much for these reasons.

TOS Miniskirts aren't a sign of sexism, they're a sign of feminism. <-- That it's the other way around during the 60s altogether, THAT is the real misconception.

Thank you for posting that and making that point! My point was that Gene didn't do it for sexist reasons, and you make the further point that the skirts weren't sexist at all, which suppliments my point perfectly.

Given how various sources reported how Gene was hands-on with the female costumes and always trying to have them show more, I think it's a fair guess that some of it wasn't just "liberation" but just Gene wanting to show some leg.

Also, given the Great Bird's fondness for fabulation when it came to his own progressive tendencies, plus the fact that both Grace Lee Whitney and Nichelle Nichols have taken the credit for this, which makes each of their stories suspect, I'd say it is quite likely but by no means certain that the mini-skirts were Gene's idea.

To paraphrase the Romulan in TUC, when it comes to GR, you never know what to believe. (Maybe there was an article in Pravda complaining that the women didn't show enough leg...)

 

[Broccoli]

Decker explains that phaser power is cut off when the ship goes into warp due to the redesign (phaser power is channeled though the warp engines).

No, he said the ship's redesign increases phaser power by channeling it through the main engines, the fact that they went into antimatter-imbalance was what cut the phasers off, not because they were in warp (or a partial one, anyway).

D'oh. My bad. I misread the script.

 

[Therin of Andor]

How do you know he didn't? We only saw one of them.

Miramanee. Carol Marcus.

That's two.

 

[Captain Robert April]

I'll take Grace at her word that the miniskirt uniform was her idea, with Nichelle as an enthusiastic co-conspirator, with the full support of GR, whose first reaction was probably "Why didn't I think of that?"

 

[FormerLurker]

The "explosions" that Shatner and Nimoy were close to in "Arena" weren't real explosions; that was colored fuller's earth being ejected by a gas jet (real sound was more like a "whoomf").

Shatner says it was an effects shot on the soundstage, and De Kelley was also present, so that nixes out "The Man Trap" (plus, that exploding pillar wasn't that big an explosion). Neither he or Nimoy remembered which episode it was, but my suspicion is that the boom in question was in the teaser for "Requiem For Methuselah", with the nice big fireball right behind them.

The problem wasn't the explosion itself, but the fact that some nimrod forgot to crack open the soundstage doors, which would've enabled the resulting shockwave to harmlessly go outside. Instead, it whacked everyone in the eardrums, with Shatner and Nmoy (and possibly Kelley) winding up with varying cases of tinnitis.

Didn't I say this on a previous page? And De Kelley was the one that brought up the ears ringing while sitting in the makeup chair.

And re: above post: QFT.

 

[Rush Limborg]

Well, let's see...

Kirk never said "Beam me up, Scotty!"



Here's another one: In the Star Trek Chronology (which is STILL not updated), it is claimed that McCoy said in "Day of the Dove" that the UFP and the Klingons had been enemies for 51 years. Thus, the Okudas put first contact with the Klingons in 2218, as per Picard's lines in the episode "First Contact".

There's just one problem: I have seen "Day..." over and over, listening close for that "51 years" line. I still have yet to hear it.

 

[3D Master]

Well, let's see...

Kirk never said "Beam me up, Scotty!"



Here's another one: In the Star Trek Chronology (which is STILL not updated), it is claimed that McCoy said in "Day of the Dove" that the UFP and the Klingons had been enemies for 51 years. Thus, the Okudas put first contact with the Klingons in 2218, as per Picard's lines in the episode "First Contact".

There's just one problem: I have seen "Day..." over and over, listening close for that "51 years" line. I still have yet to hear it.

There's a over 70-year line in TUC though, so for the Chronology it doesn't really matter.

 

[RandyS]

How do you know he didn't? We only saw one of them.

Miramanee.

Oh yeah. Forgot this one.

 

[Brutal Strudel]

She's infinitely forgettable.

 

[TOS Purist]

it is claimed that McCoy said in "Day of the Dove" that the UFP and the Klingons had been enemies for 51 years.

There's just one problem: I have seen "Day..." over and over, listening close for that "51 years" line. I still have yet to hear it.

It's actually 50 years, not 51, and McCoy says it towards the end of the episode in Engineering, when he learns that Kirk wants to try making a temporary peace with the Klingons. He doesn't think it will work, saying the 50-year line.

 

[Nerys Myk]

it is claimed that McCoy said in "Day of the Dove" that the UFP and the Klingons had been enemies for 51 years.

There's just one problem: I have seen "Day..." over and over, listening close for that "51 years" line. I still have yet to hear it.

It's actually 50 years, not 51, and McCoy says it towards the end of the episode in Engineering, when he learns that Kirk wants to try making a temporary peace with the Klingons. He doesn't think it will work, saying the 50-year line.

Really? I can't find it here: http://www.chakoteya.net/StarTrek/66.htm

or here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UpJlRn1aLs&NR=1

 

[BK613]

^^ why do so many of us remember that "50-years" line? Is it in Blish's adaptation? Was it ever on a blooper reel or was there ever a version of the episode shown on the convention circuit that differed from the later version? Because I do remember that line.

 

[Warped9]

I know of the line, but I don't recall ever hearing it.

 

[Chrisisall]

She's infinitely forgettable.

????? Galactic hottness... no way.

 

[Jonas Grumby]

^ I thought she was pretty hot, too, Chrisisall.

I'm not sure what to make of this. I think this may actually be the very first time I've ever disagreed with anything Brutal Strudel has posted.

 

[Brutal Strudel]

No! No! Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

 

[TOS Purist]

I know the "50 years" line is in there, because I know I've heard it.

...you know, now that I think about it, maybe it's from "Errand of Mercy."

 

[Nerys Myk]

I know the "50 years" line is in there, because I know I've heard it.

...you know, now that I think about it, maybe it's from "Errand of Mercy."

Nope

 

[Mytran]

I can't find it in any of the episodes!