TOS forum regulars : Did you like the new movie?

[DarkHorse]

Saw it last night at an IMAX and was greatly impressed.

Went in with an open mind and not knowing any spoilers, saw all of the trailer and had only read little about characters and plot.

For me, I saw the characters come to life again and was pleased with all of the action. Canon, time travel and parallel universe/timelines work well for the first pass; will re-examine the issue later and see how well it works with future films.

I plan on seeing it again on regular screen and IMAX again with friends.

Overall, agree with most that villians make most films work (TWOK, Batman and Dark Knight, Silence of the Lambs, Terminator, etc.), so the next one should beef up the ultimate Trek villian - Klingons!


BTW, was the character killed on the Vulcan drill mission wearing a red spacesuit?

 

[The Laughing Vulcan]

I'm sure Kirk asked him on the shuttle if he was a redshirt...

 

[plynch]

Google Gen-Y's behavior/attitude in college and the workplace, and you'll see why a film aimed at them has such a plot and characterizations.

Great!

 

[plynch]

Since you asked - I am a lover of TOS, and the movie was ok.

Very loud and explosive. An action movie, which is not my bag.

It was one more installment of defeat-the-bad-guy. I liked the actors. People are saying it was character-driven, but Kirk was a stereotypical rebel-jerk-gone-good. Maybe JJTrek II will have some more thought.

Coulda been worse.

 

[Noname Given]

TOS fan from 1969 on; and I loved the film; and enjoyed the nods to TOS here and there. Very much looking forward to the sequel; which I hope will also be 100% original (ie I hope they DON'T decide to take a story from a classic TOS episode and do it in the new universe; but not because I don't think they'd do a decent job; but after going through all this to create a decent alternate universe reboot...)

That said, the TOSer in me found a few quibbles (much like Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan - which I still think was the best of ths TOS films); that did not affect my enjoyment of the film; but which I still found interesting:

1) 'Delta Vega' (at least in the original timeline) was the planet a mere light days from the edge of the galaxy where Kirk hoped to maroon Gary Mitchell. THAT'S the planet give Spock a clear, unobstructed view of Vulcan?! (As for Scotty being there; hey it had a Lithium cracking station in the original timeline - so it seems to still have it in this one; no harm no foul).

2) Montgomery Scott created a 'Transwap Beaming Formula'; that allows people to be beamed across the Galaxy in the 23rd century - and it works; yet we NEVER saw it used in the 24th century?!

3) At the end of the film, 'Spock Prime' seems a bit too accepting of this alternate timeline. Is he getting senile; as the Spock I know would be working on a way to fix this and restore/return to his own time (and with Vulcan destroyed in this alternate timeline; I'd think he'd have ample motivation to try SOMETHING).

Sitll a very fun and enjoyable film, and as I said, definitely looking forward to the sequel.

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

I loved it.

 

[cooleddie74]

YES. I really, really liked the new movie. Especially Karl Urban's magnificent take on McCoy. The best and closest resemblance of any of the new cast to the old in the entire movie.

 

[Nerys Myk]

2) Montgomery Scott created a 'Transwap Beaming Formula'; that allows people to be beamed across the Galaxy in the 23rd century - and it works; yet we NEVER saw it used in the 24th century?!

I thought Scotty created it in the 24th Century.

 

[Nerys Myk]

2) Montgomery Scott created a 'Transwap Beaming Formula'; that allows people to be beamed across the Galaxy in the 23rd century - and it works; yet we NEVER saw it used in the 24th century?!

I thought Scotty created it in the 24th Century.

 

[The Laughing Vulcan]

Been thinking some more about it...

What I liked, the crew's origin story. I was worried that it would turn out to be Star Trek Babies, with Pike as Nanny, but they all had different origins. Kirk attended the Academy at the same time as McCoy and Uhura, but McCoy was an older man, looking for a career change after a divorce, while Uhura was apparently on a predictable career path. I guess Kirk was older, as he'd been spending time as a delinquent, and had been refusing to enlist in Starfleet despite his abilities.

Spock is obviously older, a Commander at the time of the movie, as is Scotty, although we meet him at the hind end of space. While Sulu and Chekov are already serving officers.

What I hate, what I really hate, and something that I just realised, is that this movie manages to fuck up two continuities...

Spoiler: spoiler

In Trekverse, Romulus is destroyed before Spock and Nero jump back in time. In Trek 2.0, Vulcan is destroyed. So from now on, you either have Vulcans without Romulans, or Romulans without Vulcans. Wrong Wrong Wrong Wrong! You can't have one without the other, either race is a warped mirror image of the other. The Vulcans see the Romulans as what they could be without logic, and the Romulans see the Vulcans as the arrogant Fed lackeys who kicked them offworld, and in essence betrayed them. You also have this long running plotline about Reunification. All that has been turned to dust. Fundamental elements of Trek have been erased. I don't care about what happens in Trek 2.0, but they shouldn't have fucked the Original fans over.

So much as I enjoyed the movie as a kick ass summer flick, I'm getting the dreadful sensation that Trek as I know it, in either continuity, is finally dead. What remains, what may come from the ashes of this may be entertaining, may be enjoyable, but it won't be My Trek!

 

[T'Bonz]

I agree 100% about the stuff you put in the spoiler tags. As much as I liked the movie (and I did, seeing it three times,) I'm saddened by those events.

 

[Cakes488]

BTW, was the character killed on the Vulcan drill mission wearing a red spacesuit?

Yes his name was Olsen and he was in fated one in red.

 

[Cakes488]

3) At the end of the film, 'Spock Prime' seems a bit too accepting of this alternate timeline. Is he getting senile; as the Spock I know would be working on a way to fix this and restore/return to his own time (and with Vulcan destroyed in this alternate timeline; I'd think he'd have ample motivation to try SOMETHING).

Sitll a very fun and enjoyable film, and as I said, definitely looking forward to the sequel.

This is an excellent point that you bring up....yes Spock does seem to be resigned to his current fate...but I guess since this movie isn't really about him...maybe the writers didn't care to have him try to figure something out...? Now that you brought it up it does seem out of character that

Spoiler: Spoiler

he'd be just moseying around running into himself LOL

 

[cooleddie74]

In THIS altered history Scotty developed that beaming technique this early. Nero changed things whether the most anal, diehard canonites like it or not. This isn't the classic timeline from "The Cage" to NEMESIS anymore. That one still exists, but separate in another quantum reality.

 

[Ronald Held]

Olsen Was the chief engineer.

 

[cooleddie74]

Olsen Was the chief engineer.

The great-great-great-great grandson of one of the Olsen Twins. So...naturally...he deserved to eat drill flame.

 

[TIN_MAN]

Well, I guess it's a truism that one usually ends up where one begins? I went into this movie figuring that it would probably be better than the worst of trek but not as good as the best, and now that I've seen it, that's exactly how I feel. It was a good yarn, but there were too many plot holes, inconsistancies and just plain "f*** fans fealings" moments for my taste.

 

[Warped9]

TOS forum regulars : Did you like the new movie?

No.

 

[cooleddie74]

This movie made NEMESIS look even shittier in comparison. Which I didn't think would really be possible after all this time.

 

[Trekwatcher]

3) At the end of the film, 'Spock Prime' seems a bit too accepting of this alternate timeline. Is he getting senile; as the Spock I know would be working on a way to fix this and restore/return to his own time (and with Vulcan destroyed in this alternate timeline; I'd think he'd have ample motivation to try SOMETHING).

Agreed. How many times have we seen them work to correct timelines/not pollute timelines/etc. This time it was just, "Oh well. Everything is different. My my my. You have some interesting adventures ahead of you!" My stomach fell when I realized they were not going to try to repair the timeline. Had they done that, I would have loved the film!