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TOS and Starship Exeter

Wingsley

Commodore
Commodore
After watching "The Tressaurian Intersection" a few times, I feel it's time to open a new line of discussion of what this fan-film has accomplished.

Unlike other fan films, which have tried (with varying approaches and degrees of success) to revive/extrapolate certain aspects of the STAR TREK Prime Universe, STARSHIP EXETER seems to have staked out new territory. Obviously, any fan film is endeavoring to build and project its own vision of the STAR TREK Universe. But EXETER seems to have tried to create a strongly parallel vision to that of TOS. In many respects, its as if Jimm & Josh Johnson and their army of like-minded fan-film makers wanted to do more than just create a "home made" STAR TREK episode. They seemed to want to create characters and situations within the story that you could imagine as inhabiting the same Universe as TOS, or, at the very least, would be as close to TOS as, say, TAS was.

To be sure, unlike NEW VOYAGES / PHASE II, FARRAGUT and CONTINUES, which also very heavily borrow from TOS' characters, sets, costumes, FX, "look & feel", music, etc., EXETER's second (and probably last) episode seemed to have its own identity that inserts itself in the "shell" of the TOS Universe.

Let's try imagining something. Let's envision a scenario in which you could somehow "Forest Gump" the TOS characters into a situation in which they interact with the characters and situations from "The Tressaurian Intersection". If, for sake of argument, we could somehow make that work technically, would it work in terms of how the characters of both shows behave? (In other words, if you could somehow shoe-horn together a scene showing the Enterprise and the revitalized Exeter in a rendez-vous at a distant frontier outpost or starbase, and show Capt. Garrovick beaming over to the Enterprise to confer with Capt. Kirk, would it work? Can you envision John Quincy Garrovick making a virtual appearance on TOS the way other starship commanders did (Stone, Decker, Wesley, Tracey)? If not Garrovick, could you see Cmdr. Harris or Cmdr. Cutty working with Spock, Sulu, etc.?

And do you feel that the atmospherics of EXETER (not the costumes, sets, music, etc., but instead what the characters stand for) are compatible with TOS? There are little quibbles I could think of. Despite the mythos that seems to have arisen around "In A Mirror, Darkly" on ENT, I never saw the Tholians as being super-powerful, and there was never anything about them (in the TOS Universe, anyway) that ever suggested they were responsible for the demise of the U.S.S. Defiant. In contrast, "The Tholian Web" always struck me as the Enterprise and Defiant encountering a natural phenomenon that they lacked the technology and wisdom to cope with, and the challenge for Spock, Scott and McCoy was to find some new and innovative way to survive in this unconventional environment without Capt. Kirk's guidance. By contrast, EXETER seems to re-imagine the Tholians as both a huge threat to the Federation (on par with the Borg; maybe worse) that are capable of a Delphic Expanse-style scheme to re-align this portion of our Galaxy in their favor. But the most eyebrow-raising mention in EXETER was during Garrovick's letter to Ensign Richards' parents, suggesting that she was being recognized for "military" honors. Perhaps this was Jimm & Josh Johnson's own conceptual shorthand for Starfleet's military attributes, but it does seem the whole tone of EXETER was even more militaristic than that of TOS, which was actually made in the heart of both the Cold War and the Viet Nam Conflict in particular. This seemed to chime in with Cuddy's remark that the pseudo-Gorn Tressaurian prisoner was a "cold-blooded bastard", a significant departure for the rest of the episode's profanity-free atmosphere.

It would be a thrill to imagine John Quincy Garrovick either meeting face-to-face or otherwise teaming up with James T. Kirk. I don't know if the hyper-aggressive Tholians or Tressaurians would fit into the TOS Univserse, but the Exeter and her crew could easily be seen working with the Enterprise crew. (I wonder if Garrovick & company could share a drink with the Enterprise's characters on Space Station K-7...)

Of course, it could be argued that this wasn't what EXETER was about. It's not about reviving TOS exactly. It's about the fans saying that, despite Hollywood's movies and spin-offs, many fans really wanted to "get back to the basics" of TOS all along, and EXETER managed to do something that no STAR TREK movie, spin-off TV series, or other fan film really tried to do: it tried to faithfully capture the essence of TOS (with some compromises) and bring it to life with a story which accepted that essence as a good thing, not something to be restyled or repudiated in the name of fashion and film-making trends.

Did they succeed?
 
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I am a fan and a supporter, but I wish that they had used the canon registry number for the Exeter, and a better reproduction of the assignment patch.
 
Exeter is fun, and without the attempts to ape the TOS cast seen in other fan films it's a lot easier to envision it as part of the Trek world.
I am a fan and a supporter, but I wish that they had used the canon registry number for the Exeter, and a better reproduction of the assignment patch.
If these things bother you, you're watching it wrong.
 
I like that the Exeter had its own alien ''enemy'', the Tressaurians, rather than do what all the other Fan studios do which is to bring in the Klingons and the Romulans yet again (despite creating some entertaining films, Farragut needs to stop doing this). I like it less that there was even a need to link them genetically with the Gorn for no reason other than both are reptilian in appearance. That mention could have been excised from the final cut without any effect on the rest of the film. But the film was still top-notch.

As to creating their own identity, I look at it this way: let's say space for the sake of argument is like one big galactic pie chart with Earth smack dab in the center (because as we all know, we earthlings ARE the center of the universe:lol:...). It would make sense that Starfleet would divide up unknown space into equal pie shares and assign their exploratory starships to all head out in different directions from its center location in an effort to maximise information-gathering.

So if we have the Enterprise as the ship headed towards galactic 1 o'clock, with Exeter going, say, towards 5 o'clock and Farragut towards 9 o'clock. With the universe as big as it is, chances should be infinitely slim that races like the Klingons, the Romulans and others would keep intersecting with the Federation reps.

Yes, those antagonists make for dramatic comfort food, but I'm pretty much ready to start chomping down on something else than daily hamburger.
 
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I can't speak to the first episode "The Savage Empire," which utilized Chang and possibly some elements of Andorian culture from various sources. But I'm pretty sure that in "The Tressaurian Intersection" the only post-original-TV-series-elements we added were a couple of references from a role-playing game (Star Fleet Battles?), maybe a visual element or two from the Franz Joseph publications and an idea I borrowed from the 1978 Star Trek Phase II series Writer's Guide. For the most part, any "official" Star Trek elements that didn't appear as part of the original TV series were irrelevant to the production.

Maybe Star Fleet updated the assignment patch after Quince and Cutty salvaged Exeter. ;)
 
I like it less that there was even a need to link them genetically with the Gorn for no reason other than both are reptilian in appearance.

I think I weaseled on that by saying "believed related to the Gorn," but point taken. ;)
 
I thought the Exeter badges looks great.

The only thing in The Tressaurian Insurrection that I thought looked just plain bad was the green wraparound tunic. Other than that I thought everything looked pretty authentic.
 
Personally, I thought the Tholian ships seemed too powerful, but I had no problem with their building the dimension shifting Big Effing Device, since that seems right in line with a species who would just as soon hang a Do Not Disturb sign on their "sec-tor".
 
I guess we'll see things differently. I liked the badges and Garrovick's tunic.

Yes, it was nice to see an alien antagonist other than the Klingons. I agree with sentiments above that the Klingons are seriously overused in fan films. I like how the EXETER crew went where no fan film has gone before by giving us a taste of pseudo-Gorn and Tholians; definitely an improvement over fan-made Klingons.

Now, if we could just see some non-militaristic fan films like or "The Menagerie", or "Dagger Of The Mind", or "The Galileo Seven", or "The Immunity Syndrome".
 
I've not watched the "Tressaurian" episode, but when I was watching those earlier acts while "Savage Empire" was being produced years ago (I was at Dennis' old site back then), I thought they captured the spirit of the original show better than other more prominent productions did.
 
The episode is here, for comparative purposes ;)

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkuJG1_2MnU[/yt]
 
I like stories taking place elsewhere in that Universe- other Starfleet vessels encountering their own unique problems and making new discoveries.
Each ship has it's own captain who runs it his way- Kirk had his style and Garrovick had his. it is refreshing to see a show not trying to clone the original series but telling a good story which can stand on it's own. I would have liked having some differences in the ship's interior to set it apart from the Enterprise- I know they were built by the same people, but as the Franz Joseph blueprints mentioned- "Does not reflect yard changed during construction" (Not a perfect quote, but it has been years since I read that book).
 
Exeter is fun, and without the attempts to ape the TOS cast seen in other fan films it's a lot easier to envision it as part of the Trek world.
I am a fan and a supporter, but I wish that they had used the canon registry number for the Exeter, and a better reproduction of the assignment patch.
If these things bother you, you're watching it wrong.

I know they're minor points to most, but they detract, or rather distract me from total enjoyment. But, again, I am very supportive and appreciative of the effort.
 
So re the registry: you'd rather the film be inconsistent with its previous episode and be retconned to match the Remastered retcon?
 
So re the registry: you'd rather the film be inconsistent with its previous episode and be retconned to match the Remastered retcon?

You know, the only thing more ridiculous than me being bothered by the registry not being correct (by my reckoning, at least) is your being bothered by my being bothered by that.

I stated my support for this project, and although my memory is not firm on the subject, I seem to remember even donating some money towards it during production.

In any case, I made my point, I stand by it, and frankly I don't care if it meets with your approval or not.
 
For the record, the Dec. 2002 "Savage Empire film established the registry as 1706. The first part of TTI was released in 2005 and also had 1706. The remastered "The Omega Glory", with the 1607 registry didn't air until June 30, 2007.

My point was that the remastered registry was impossible to reconcile because it was a revision made after the show's first segments had been released. I'm not "bothered" by it. I'm simply pointing out that the "canon" registry was a retcon long after TTI has shot.
 
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