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Torchwood Season 1 vs. Season 2

I can't believe Something Borrowed gets more wrist-slaps than From Out of the Rain. I think the latter is by far the worst episode of either series.
 
^ Me too. Every time I watch FOotR I either fall asleep (took me three goes to see it all from start to finish) or lose interest. Yes, I liked seeing Jack and Ianto work together for once, and yes Julian Bleach was brilliant but it's sooooooooo booooooooorinnnnnnnnnng.

Something Borrowed is great fun. Silly, yes, cliche-ridden, yes, full of annoying Welsh women (which I'm naturally used to anyway) but it has Nerys Hughes, some rare fun material for Tosh, and a decent villain. And when Rhys powered up that chainsaw - oh yes!
 
Overall I like torchwood but there is a big continuity malfunction with Jack's name. They say he got his name in WWII from the real one, but in the last two episodes of seasons two they had him being called by that name when he was first recruited into Torchwood in the previous century. So what's the deal there?

Secondly, I wish they'd get rid of the homosexual crap in it. It's only there for shock value and to hook the viewers in value not for any real story there.

And the episode was entirely predictable for me. I would've taken it in a different direction, where his brother wouldn't hate him, but would definately be psychologically damage and they'd have to see what they can about healing him. Or maybe even have him being the tool of the beings who tortured him.

And secondly, they only barely hinted it, is Jack's abilities to never die purely his own? It doesn't seem so. I think they're a part of the race of people he's from. After all, his brother is still alive as well.

Which only brings up the question of just how old is Jack? They seemed to say that he was there when the University of Time Lords (whatever the proper name is I can't remember at the moment) and is even older than the Doctor. Possibly millenia older. So what's the deal there?
 
Overall I like torchwood but there is a big continuity malfunction with Jack's name. They say he got his name in WWII from the real one, but in the last two episodes of seasons two they had him being called by that name when he was first recruited into Torchwood in the previous century. So what's the deal there?
You have to remember Jack has a very tangled personal timeline. He's at World War II several times over.

1. When The Ninth Doctor and Rose encountered him in "The Empty Child"/"The Doctor Dances," he has already taken the name of Captain Jack Harkness (after the real one died).

2. After being abandoned by The Tenth Doctor and Rose in "The Parting of the Ways," Jack attempts to return the 20th century Earth, but misses by a bit and lands in 1869. Because he was revived by Rose via the Heart of the TARDIS, he is now indestructible and lives through World War II again. It's during this time he joins Torchwood.

3. He revisits World War II with Tosh and meets the real Captain Jack Harkness in "Captain Jack Harkness."

4. He exists during World War II again after being buried alive by Captain John Hart in 27 A.D.
 
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Overall I like torchwood but there is a big continuity malfunction with Jack's name. They say he got his name in WWII from the real one, but in the last two episodes of seasons two they had him being called by that name when he was first recruited into Torchwood in the previous century. So what's the deal there?

Because that's the name he's assumed for himself before any of that happened in his own personal timeline. He was in 1941 to take the name long, long before he was sent back to the 19th century.

And the episode was entirely predictable for me. I would've taken it in a different direction, where his brother wouldn't hate him, but would definately be psychologically damage and they'd have to see what they can about healing him. Or maybe even have him being the tool of the beings who tortured him.

That would have been more interesting, but what we got was okay.

And secondly, they only barely hinted it, is Jack's abilities to never die purely his own? It doesn't seem so. I think they're a part of the race of people he's from. After all, his brother is still alive as well.

This was explained on Doctor Who but not Torchwood.

Which only brings up the question of just how old is Jack? They seemed to say that he was there when the University of Time Lords (whatever the proper name is I can't remember at the moment) and is even older than the Doctor. Possibly millenia older. So what's the deal there?

Well he doesn't age, or does so incredibly slowly. I'd estimate him to be over 2000 years old as of the end of series 2 and his appearance in the last episode of Doctor Who series 4.
 
Secondly, I wish they'd get rid of the homosexual crap in it. It's only there for shock value and to hook the viewers in value not for any real story there.

I think "gratuitous sex" would have been a better choice of words than "homosexual crap". The genders involved are not the issue.

And secondly, they only barely hinted it, is Jack's abilities to never die purely his own? It doesn't seem so. I think they're a part of the race of people he's from.

He's human.

Tell me, do you actually watch the show? Is dialogue something you consider important to a story?

Which only brings up the question of just how old is Jack? They seemed to say that he was there when the University of Time Lords (whatever the proper name is I can't remember at the moment) and is even older than the Doctor. Possibly millenia older. So what's the deal there?

I guess not.
 
Well, in Jack's Doctor Who appearances, it's pretty heavily implied that he had some dealings with the Daleks and the Time Lords before they were wiped out in the war.
 
Tell me, do you actually watch the show? Is dialogue something you consider important to a story?

They often talk really fast for me so sometimes it's hard for me to understand what they're saying.

So get your head out of your ass. Dimwit.

And go fuck yourself with your inane juevinle holier than thou crap.
 
Tell me, do you actually watch the show? Is dialogue something you consider important to a story?
They often talk really fast for me so sometimes it's hard for me to understand what they're saying.

So get your head out of your ass. Dimwit.

It was a valid question.

And go fuck yourself with your inane

Obviously not inane enough for you to deem it unworthy of a ridiculously petulant response.


That's rich. It's also spelt juvenile.

holier than thou crap.

:wtf: You're reading way too much into it.
 
Baloney. It was condescending and insulting.

I can't help that you're so easily offended. I don't want to labour the point, but the reason I asked is because nobody who had paid attention to the series would have made so many schoolboy errors.

Not that a lack of Whoniverse knowledge matters a jot in the grand scheme of things, but weighing into a nerdy, fanboy infested Doctor Who forum with a post of that caliber practically invites condescension (which, might I add, was made in jest).
 
Tell me, do you actually watch the show? Is dialogue something you consider important to a story?
They often talk really fast for me so sometimes it's hard for me to understand what they're saying.

So get your head out of your ass. Dimwit.

And go fuck yourself with your inane juevinle holier than thou crap.

One warning for flaming.
 
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