Torchwood Miracle day: ep 103 "dead of night" grade and disscussion

[Sindatur]

Re: Torchwood Miracle day: ep 103 "dead of night" grade and disscussio

Because Jack says he's the leader of this group. That means more responsibility. Rex is not the leader and wasn't even sure that he wanted to be a part of the group. No, it was not a responsible thing for Jack to do. Putting your own personal satisfaction ahead of the team is not good leadership.

Mr Awe

Rex thinks he's the leader, and doesn't accept Jack's leadership and walked out. Esther wanted out, that means his team he is leading consists of him and Gwen when he went on his Joyride. Rex's country, Rex's operation, etc, so Rex is just as irrespopnisble as Jack. Certainly not saying Jack is a golden boy or didn't do soemthing wrong, I'm just surprised that everyone is so hard on Jack, but, giving Rex a free ride, for doing the exact same thing and doing it first.

Just highlights my point, if Jack wants to be the leader he needs to act like the leader!

Rex might have questioned Jack's leadership but never said that he wanted to be leader. That's a different matter altogether.

Mr Awe

Hmmm...Are you sure? I swear Rex asked "who made you boss" and then replied back something like "this is my show, I'm the boss" <paraphrased>

 

[stj]

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Is it me or is Mekhi Phifer reprising Burn Gorman's "I'm walking around but I'm really dead" angst?

 

[Pindar]

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Can't these threads be pinned? This one will have dropped off the page before it airs in the UK.

 

[FanscapeDani]

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Glad to see you guys discussing the newest episode of Torchwood! If you want to get a hint about what will happen this Friday, in 4th episode "Dead is Dead," watch the new preview clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcSyR6kdNco , as well as this week's full episode preview if you missed it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R14yefwwOvs

This past weekend an exclusive preview clip was screened at the Torchwood Comic-Con panel (which I noticed you posted about in its own thread), and if you didn't get to be there you can catch that preview now on Youtube: http://www.starz.com/originals/Torchwood/ScreeningRoom#/comic-conthere

[I'm working with Starz to spread word about the show, so feel free to ask me questions if you have any. ]

 

[The Wormhole]

Re: Torchwood Miracle day: ep 103 "dead of night" grade and disscussio

Well, I'm late to this game, but anyway I liked it. As entertaining as I've come to expect. It had lots of awesome one-liners, particularly after Gwen knocked the secuity guard out and Esther comments "You've done that before?" "Too many times." Rex's unconventional relationship with that doctor is also becoming rather entertaining.

Actually, Gwen really kicked ass this week. In addition to the aforementioned flirt with then knock out the security guard, I also liked it when the rest of the gang was trying to find a car to break in, checking for unlocked doors, and she just breaks a window and declares that to be their car. She's really becoming a cool character. Not that there was anything wrong with the character before, she just seems more cooler than before

On the nitpick side of things, once again the video contact lenses have no audio capabilities and can only lip-read, just like in Children of Earth. Yet when these were first introduced in season 2, they did have audio. Was this explained and I'm just forgetting the explanation, or is this just an oversight to serve the story? Oh and Jack and Gwen talk about how much they miss Ianto. What about Owen and Tosh?

Once again Wayne Knight continues to be Secret Agent Newman. Somehow I would think a high-level agent (or is he a director?) in the CIA would be a bit tougher and wouldn't break down and cry upon discovering someone's broke into his house. Oh well, it was only one scene, so whatever.

So, this immortality is the result of an Evil Corporation(tm) with a Shady Agenda? One in which redheaded PR lady is involved with and they've recruited Oswald. I'm a bit underwhelmed by this revelation, but let's see where things go.

Talk about making a mountain out of a mole-hill. Jack's sex scene has got to be the most over-hyped and exaggerated thing yet. All this yammering about a GRAPHIC GAY SEX SCENE and all it turns out to be is 30 seconds Jack and another guy naked, making out, with Jack thrusting his ass back and forth. Yeah, we don't see that sort of thing on TV every day, and I haven't seen it in very many movies either. But come on, that is not worth the amount of discussion it stirred up before the episode aired.

 

[Stevil2001]

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As far as the graphic sex goes, I was more amused that they're fine showing all that, but they still have to ridiculously contort that sheet in ways that real people never would so no one sees a nipple.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

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I like that they alternated between the gay and the straight sex scenes so that those who are more insecure might have to question the source of their excitement. This must have been a tough one for them.

"Oh yeah, the doctor is getting naked - NO NO - oh yeah, take it off baby - OH GOD NO - what a nice ass - ARGH, IT'S A GUY'S ASS."

The confrontation between Jack and Danes was spectacular and the highlight of the episode for me. Great acting on Pullman's part, especially.

I hope they develop the cult thing more and it's not just something that's happening off to the side that never becomes important to the story.

Rex continues to be annoying. I've rarely disliked a character you're supposed to be rooting for this much. He makes me hope that the ultimate result of the end of the Miracle is that everyone who was supposed to die does die. Sucks for many of the people, but as long as it gets Rex...

Some good lines from Gwen, and it was nice to see the neat contacts back again.

 

[Lonemagpie]

Re: Torchwood Miracle day: ep 103 "dead of night" grade and disscussio

Hey, was that God from Star Trek V as the TV evangelist?

 

[od0_ital]

Re: Torchwood Miracle day: ep 103 "dead of night" grade and disscussio

^

I think so, but IMDB.com doesn't have the listin' updated yet.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0613787/

 

[wamdue]

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Sex issues, if that was left in what exaxctly was cut, that is actually alot more than alot of people expect from 9pm on BBC 1.

moving on the pace continues to be a little slow, still nice of the show to flag up how it was again repeating from Children of Earth, its like RTDs has run Mircale Day though a CoE template.

My thoughts on the mircale, well this is a long way to go to prevent Obamas health care reforms from happening, but it is interesting that the US government is queit on the issue, allowing Danes to almost control the news agenda. Not sure if the company is responbile for the mircale themselves unless they are not as human as it might appear. Its certainly an unique plan to control humanity by giving it immoralitiy.

 

[IcecreamLtDan]

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My only problem with the sex scenes, gay or otherwise, is that they seem so forced. I mean, it's just not something that's really necessary to move the story along, actually it seems to slow it down. Other than that, this was my favorite episode so far of this series.

 

[wamdue]

Re: Torchwood Miracle day: ep 103 "dead of night" grade and disscussio

Jack seemed a bit forced, however I think the idea was to lead to Jack realising that his life is empty, as for Rex it strengthed his relationship with Doctor Vera. You could say that was helpful to Torchwood in this episode, and maybe again in the future.

Vera is the new Lois

The bit about the babys, (who would normmally self abort) staying alive, was interesting, as was the bit last week, about the idea this will bread super germs, the producers have thought very seriously about the effects of the miracle.

 

[timothy]

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love the show so far I really did'nt have issues with vera or rex having sex or jack for that matter. looking forward to friday's episode.

 

[G2309]

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Good episode although I'd still like to see more of the hospitals and how the worlds reacting. Was jack wearing the contact lense cameras? If not why not?

 

[The Wormhole]

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Good episode although I'd still like to see more of the hospitals and how the worlds reacting. Was jack wearing the contact lense cameras? If not why not?

Because they only have one pair which Gwen was wearing.

 

[timothy]

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then jack should've waited till her mission was done or did a better job at hiding a tape recorder I mean really.

 

[Pindar]

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I voted so-so, I hope this was the worst episode of the series.

I thought that was pretty poor. A few good bits and a lot of rubbish. Couldn't really see the point of the sex scenes.

Why was Rex bleeding all the time, he didn't bleed at all last week even when getting punched in his gash. (Thank you Blogtor Who)

Rex is an arse but so is Jack. It's basically Gwen that's getting things done.

The police raid on the hotel was so clumsy it was laughable.

Constantly telling me what an ATM is or the correct side of the road to drive on as if Gwen wouldn't know all those things.

Has Rex always been that much of a dick or is his status as one of the dead changing his personality.

Please don't let Jane Espenson write another episode.

 

[wamdue]

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the meeting of the child killers was interesting, Jack getting a mesaure of Danes based on there not the same shared experinces. TBH the idea that Danes isnt sorry for his crimes is a big deal, the best killer characters are the ones who will chillingly talk like what the did was totally normal.

 

[Bob The Skutter]

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Sex issues, if that was left in what exaxctly was cut, that is actually alot more than alot of people expect from 9pm on BBC 1.

moving on the pace continues to be a little slow, still nice of the show to flag up how it was again repeating from Children of Earth, its like RTDs has run Mircale Day though a CoE template.

My thoughts on the mircale, well this is a long way to go to prevent Obamas health care reforms from happening, but it is interesting that the US government is queit on the issue, allowing Danes to almost control the news agenda. Not sure if the company is responbile for the mircale themselves unless they are not as human as it might appear. Its certainly an unique plan to control humanity by giving it immoralitiy.

Here's the scene http://blogtorwho.blogspot.com/2011/07/torchwood-miracle-day-ep-3-cut-scene.html

 

[wamdue]

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it reminds me a bit of the John Barrowman video where in one half of the screen a guy is kissing a girl, and in the other John is doing similar to a man.