Torchwood: Children of Earth Day Two Grading Thread

[tomalak301]

Great episode last night. At first I wasn't sure about the whole Family thing with Ianto and Jack but it is adding a lot of depth to the characters and making me feel for them more. Also, Gwen and Rhys has really shined in this season. Just them sitting on top of the potatoes were great scenes, especially when Rhys found out she was pregnant.

As for Lois, I don't mind her. I think she does have a sense of naivety about her in that this was her first day and she isn't corrupted.

With this kind of miniseries, I think it might be easier to talk about it as a whole when it ends. Kind of hard to say "Looking forward to what happens next" every day.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

As for Lois, I don't mind her. I think she does have a sense of naivety about her in that this was her first day and she isn't corrupted.

I quite liked Lois. In some ways, she reminds me a lot of Tish Jones, and part of me wishes that they had brought back Tish.

I know that some have speculated that Lois fills the role that Martha would have played, but I don't see how Martha would have fit into this story at all.

 

[CommodoreKong]

I'm really enjoying this miniseries so far. I love how the story is so tightly focused, and moves along so quickly. So far this is my favorite season of Torchwood, the first episode was great and the second, while not quite as good or crazy as the first, was still very enjoyable. I really hope they keep up the quality for the last three nights.

How Jack has not lost his mind after this is beyond me but still pretty scary.

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Well if being buried alive for a thousand years didn't do it you have to wonder what would...

I guess the time energy that keeps him alive also protects his mind, preventing him from going mad.

 

[Captain Dago]

How Jack has not lost his mind after this is beyond me but still pretty scary.

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Well if being buried alive for a thousand years didn't do it you have to wonder what would...

I guess the time energy that keeps him alive also protects his mind, preventing him from going mad.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, cause it did SO much for Rose...

I think Jack's varied and harrowing life before his initial resurrection probably helped him develop the strength of mind needed. Plus the trauma of getting used to being immortal in the first place. And he's just a tough-minded SOB...

 

[CommodoreKong]

How Jack has not lost his mind after this is beyond me but still pretty scary.

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Well if being buried alive for a thousand years didn't do it you have to wonder what would...

I guess the time energy that keeps him alive also protects his mind, preventing him from going mad.

Yeah, cause it did SO much for Rose...

I think Jack's varied and harrowing life before his initial resurrection probably helped him develop the strength of mind needed. Plus the trauma of getting used to being immortal in the first place. And he's just a tough-minded SOB...[/QUOTE]

Well as the Doctor says Rose basically brought Jack back as a fixed point in time, it's possible that the time energy prevents any mental degradation or madness from being alive for so long.

Plus Jack has a lot less of that energy in him then Rose did seeing as how that amount of energy killed the Doctor.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

I think Jack's varied and harrowing life before his initial resurrection probably helped him develop the strength of mind needed. Plus the trauma of getting used to being immortal in the first place. And he's just a tough-minded SOB...

I imagine that the Time Agency has some incredibly thorough psychological conditioning they put their agents through.

There's also the theory in fandom that Jack's resurrection ability not only reboots his body, it also reboots his brain.

Jack survived a year of torture at the hands of the Master (and I've no doubt that once the Master realized what he had in his hands, Jack became his personal plaything), and two thousand years buried alive. If Jack got through those without his brain going "pop," something works for him.

Well as the Doctor says Rose basically brought Jack back as a fixed point in time, it's possible that the time energy prevents any mental degradation or madness from being alive for so long.

Plus Jack has a lot less of that energy in him then Rose did seeing as how that amount of energy killed the Doctor.

My theory is that whatever Rose did to Jack, time rewinds for him. The best example is the bullet wound in "Everything Changes."

I also think he's a living artron energy battery, and that his proximity to the Cardiff Rift helped to strengthen his ability. The flight to the end of time on the outside of the TARDIS would have exposed him to massive doses of artron energy as well.

 

[CommodoreKong]

I think Jack's varied and harrowing life before his initial resurrection probably helped him develop the strength of mind needed. Plus the trauma of getting used to being immortal in the first place. And he's just a tough-minded SOB...

I imagine that the Time Agency has some incredibly thorough psychological conditioning they put their agents through.

There's also the theory in fandom that Jack's resurrection ability not only reboots his body, it also reboots his brain.

Jack survived a year of torture at the hands of the Master (and I've no doubt that once the Master realized what he had in his hands, Jack became his personal plaything), and two thousand years buried alive. If Jack got through those without his brain going "pop," something works for him.

Well as the Doctor says Rose basically brought Jack back as a fixed point in time, it's possible that the time energy prevents any mental degradation or madness from being alive for so long.

Plus Jack has a lot less of that energy in him then Rose did seeing as how that amount of energy killed the Doctor.

My theory is that whatever Rose did to Jack, time rewinds for him. The best example is the bullet wound in "Everything Changes."

I also think he's a living artron energy battery, and that his proximity to the Cardiff Rift helped to strengthen his ability. The flight to the end of time on the outside of the TARDIS would have exposed him to massive doses of artron energy as well.

The only problem with that is explaining how he becomes the Face of Bo, though I suppose it could be explained away by saying the energy eventually mutates him.

 

[TerriO]

The only problem with that is explaining how he becomes the Face of Bo, though I suppose it could be explained away by saying the energy eventually mutates him.

My pet theory on the Face of Boe thing is that Jack finally goes mad one day from everything he's endured and tries to decapitate himself to see if that will kill him. (Perhaps one too many viewings of Highlander? ) The body goes the way of the dinosaur, and the head is all that survives. Somehow, in the "regeneration", something goes wrong and we end up with the Face.

 

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The only problem with that is explaining how he becomes the Face of Bo, though I suppose it could be explained away by saying the energy eventually mutates him.

My pet theory on the Face of Boe thing is that Jack finally goes mad one day from everything he's endured and tries to decapitate himself to see if that will kill him. (Perhaps one too many viewings of Highlander? ) The body goes the way of the dinosaur, and the head is all that survives. Somehow, in the "regeneration", something goes wrong and we end up with the Face.

Nice! Also, we don't know what kind of exotic radiation, atmospheres, and chemicals he encounters during his lifetime. Anything could have caused a mutation...