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Torchwood: Children of Earth DAY FIVE FINALE grading thread

Day Five: Nut Brown Ale or Squid Vomit?

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My mum has decided to watch this but oh so smart people at virgin have only put ep 1-4 on the Virgin box even though on the internet I player they have 1-5:brickwall:
And my mum say's she does not want to watch it though a little pc screen.
 
Snick27 said:
I Truly hated this.


What kind of Monsters are we to give up 10 percent of other peoples children? If we are that cold and heartless then we deserve to get wiped out.

That ending ruined Jacks image. NO longer can i watch him with the doctor in season 1 etc and enjoy watching a man that killed his grandson.

As a dad of 4, no way in hell would i ever do that.

I rather go down fighting , you no fighting for my kids to live then to just give up.
Plus Unit and Torchwood should know and manly Jack, that earth couldnt be wiped out cause its a fix point. If earth is wiped out, then in the future BAD WOLF and Parting of the Ways wouldnt happen and that means Rose would never be there to make Jack immortal.

Plus i feel if earth was about to get destoryed then i feel the Doctor would show up and stop it. To me its a risk i would take cause think, if the 456 would of taken the 10 percent, what type of world we have left?
Everyone would be fighting the gov of their county and it be wars plus i dont think every country would actually give up those children.

If nothing else, what they should of done, kept that old man alive that was one of the boys in 1965 and let him give his life to stop the 456. That to me would of been fine and gave him something to actually do and be a hero at the end, ala payback.


So many ways they could of gone with this, but no go the doom and gloom way.
I must be the only on on here that likes happy endings.
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I am sorry to say this but there are people out there who would gladly get rid of kids who they see has not very smart or who parents only earn £5.75.
 
Serial thread killer said:
My mum has decided to watch this but oh so smart people at virgin have only put ep 1-4 on the Virgin box even though on the internet I player they have 1-5:brickwall:
And my mum say's she does not want to watch it though a little pc screen.
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Well it is out on DVD tomorrow, £15.99 at HMV.
 
Having spent too much time on the Internet since Friday night I note that the ultimate irony about COE is that people spent four years complaining that RTD didn't write stories that were dark or adult or serious enough and when he turn round and creates one of the most dark and adult and serious series seen on British TV in years people complain that it was too dark too adult and too serious.

The guy can't get a break!
 
StCoop said:
Having spent too much time on the Internet since Friday night I note that the ultimate irony about COE is that people spent four years complaining that RTD didn't write stories that were dark or adult or serious enough and when he turn round and creates one of the most dark and adult and serious series seen on British TV in years people complain that it was too dark too adult and too serious.

The guy can't get a break!
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I don't know, seems the overwhelming opinion is it was fantastic, and the AI is high on all 5 episodes. I think it's just a matter of whinging bastards being whinging bastards.
 
ive not seen all of RTDs work, but ive seen his Doctor Who (& spin-offs), and The Second Coming, my question is, is this RTDs finest (5) hour(s)?
 
wamdue said:
ive not seen all of RTDs work, but ive seen his Doctor Who (& spin-offs), and The Second Coming, my question is, is this RTDs finest (5) hour(s)?
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By far, yes. It really is the best thing he has done, feth its one of the best things the BBC has produced full stop.
 
The thing you fanatics are overlooking is that I don't think anyone wanted to see the Doctor, Sarah Jane, Mr. Smith or anyone else show up for the story. The problem is that they should have been a part of this story. It's a problem with having the story being told in a universe that has the Doctor, Sarah Jane, Mr. Smith and etc. in it. People who consistantly and regularly show up during cataclysmic events involving every single child on the entire planet AND focused on Great Britain. Hell, we barely even saw UNIT. Just one guy in a uniform. That was it.

There's this thing called "suspension of disbelief." This story stretches it beyond the breaking point. In the reality of its universe, the Doctor, Sarah Jane, Mr. Smith and/or UNIT should have all been major players alongside Torchwood.

Even if you absolutely loved the story itself, those characters shouldn't have been excluded just so you could allow the drama to unfold. That is bad storytelling, and that is the problem some people are having with it. And it's not them wanting to see those characters, just that they should have been there for the story to be at all believable within the context of its own universe.
 
The Doctor cannot be everywhere in time at once, the ending was better because instead of a Doctor tech solution which is clean & easy, we got something with consequences Jack killing his own granchild. Torchwood works fine the way it is.
 
We saw quite a few UNIT troops in part 5.

i'd guess Sarah-Jane was busy gathering up kids in her area and trying to hide them some place...
 
Checkmate said:
There's this thing called "suspension of disbelief." This story stretches it beyond the breaking point. In the reality of its universe, the Doctor, Sarah Jane, Mr. Smith and/or UNIT should have all been major players alongside Torchwood.
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The Doctor was somewhere else, in the future or in the past, a long way from Earth. Sarah Jane and Mister Smith were doing what they can to save the children, and probably failing spectacularly. UNIT was involved.

Suspension of disbelief is like a muscle. If you don't use it properly it will grow weak and eventually will atrophy.
 
I thought Sarah Jane was a kids show? if that is the case no way would TPTB would let her turn on on torchwood
If it bothers you people that much the government probably stopped Sarah Jane and co from turning up.
 
Maybe the Doctor is doing something far more important on some other planet. Earth isn't the only world in the universe. Sarah Jane was probably trying to save as many kids as possible, they just didn't bother to show it.
 
Are you actually arguing that a guy with a time machine was somewhere/somewhen else during these events? XD

A guy in a time machine.

And a time machine that has a knack for wrenching him to important times and places?

Really?

That's your argument? XD
 
Alright, how about this argument. This 456 event was one of those events that was supposed to be. The Doctor refused to save Pompeii because it was a event that was supposed to take place. Perhaps this event with the 456 was the same. It was written in history and the Doctor refuses to change time to make things better.
 
Checkmate said:
Are you actually arguing that a guy with a time machine was somewhere/somewhen else during these events? XD

A guy in a time machine.

And a time machine that has a knack for wrenching him to important times and places?

Really?

That's your argument? XD
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Might as well ask where the Doctor was on 11th September 2001, or during the genocide in Rwanda, or why he didn't save 6 million Jews from being exterminated...
 
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