Iron Eagle had a great soundtrack, but the premise was just too far out for me. The less said of the sequels, the better.
I actually enjoyed Fire Birds quite a bit.
I actually enjoyed Fire Birds quite a bit.
Top Gun:Maverick
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I wonder if that was partly why they introduced the "Maverick delayed Rooster's career" storyline. (Aside from the drama, that is.) To explain why Rooster, who was apparently that little boy in the first movie and so should probably be pushing 40 in the sequel, is still just a lieutenant. They probably should have said that Rooster was actually Goose's second son, and Meg Ryan's character was pregnant with him at the time of the first movie.The odd thing to me is that they let it be in the present day. This story could have been told in any timeframe after the original, so why not have it be 2006 instead of 2022? That would have been right in the wheelhouse for Mav to be a captain and put Rooster at about 25 years old or so.
Hell, the way they actually did it, Rooster would probably have outranked Maverick!
Still loved it, though.
Would have been nice to have a cameo from her, but I guess we have to settle for the pictures they used from the first movie.
I'm not sure she's even acting anymore.
Her most recent thing is from 2018, so I still think she's getting work. I wonder if they asked her, given that she was a big part of the original enough to show her pictures and directly mention her.
How twisted would it have been if Meg Ryan had come back as the love interest rather than Penny Benjamin? Maverick trying to replace Goose as both Rooster's father and Carol's husband. It wouldn't be the first time that theme had been explored in literature or the movies.
That might have made it a little too weird, though. For Rooster, anyway.
That might have made it a little too weird, though. For Rooster, anyway.
Did anyone else notice that almost all of Jennifer Connolly's shots were closeups? Personally, I think she has an eating disorder. They used her hairstyle in the movie to soften her facial features, but that girl is just skin and bones- she doesn't have enough ass to fill out a pair of jeans, these days. You didn't see so much as a bare shoulder, even in the love scene. It's a shame- 30 years ago she was one of the most beautiful women in the industry.
How twisted would it have been if Meg Ryan had come back as the love interest rather than Penny Benjamin? Maverick trying to replace Goose as both Rooster's father and Carol's husband. It wouldn't be the first time that theme had been explored in literature or the movies.
That might have made it a little too weird, though. For Rooster, anyway.
I wasn't even thinking along those lines. I was thinking more that she would appear in a cameo, either as Rooster getting a call from his mother, or by her visiting the base to visit where she ends up catching up with Maverick and helping him deal with his grief and guilt surrounding Goose. I think having to teach Rooster, who looked a lot like his friend Goose must have really tortured him. Kind of like a ghost from his past.
As for Jennifer Connolly, she was fine. She just didn't have very much chemistry with Tom Cruise the way he did with his original girlfriend.
Let's not do this. Talk about the movie, not people's appearances.
refresh my memory here....Connelly's character is the "admiral's daughter" mentioned in the original film, amirite?
That's the idea, apparently.
Yep. Goose mentions her by name when he and Mav are getting their ass chewing from Stinger after waving off to save Cougar.
Lots of little accuracies in the new one, to counter-balance the hollywood stuff.
1. The laser code Bob dials in is actually a real one, but the default one used in DCS. Clever easter egg.
2. The manual wing sweep handle in the Tomcat cockpit was legit, right up to the plastic cover. The rest of the cockpit looked righteous as well.
3. The air cart, needing it to crank the F-14's motors, stowing the cockpit ladder, and pulling the pins on the weapons- all realistic stuff, and nice little touches.
4. This movie actually had the NATOPS manual in it! (Until it went in the trash)
Not so accurate:
1. The strike might as well have been a full alpha strike, if it was that critical. Tomahawks and JDAMS on the SAM sites as well as the airfield, F-35's flying backup on the ground strike and air cover, full TARCAP, plus everything we saw. The carrier carries 80 planes. Use 'em if you mean business- if you want to kick some ass, you better bring some ass.
2. The Tomcat wouldn't have made that takeoff roll with a full bag of gas, I don't think. But actual numbers were never given, so whatever.
3. GPS blackout or not, the F-35 could have flown the strike. We all get why that didn't happen in this feature. No worries.
4. When Rooster finally reset the CB in the Tomcat, he turned on the AWG-9, not the radios.
5. TOPGUN is at Fallon, not North Island. North Island is a helo base these days. Fighter Weapons School is not even TOPGUN anymore, although dogfighting is part of the overall graduate Strike Warfare syllabus. San Diego is way more sexy than Fallon, however, so there you have it. I Iived at NAS Fallon in 9th grade and it was a dusty nowhere of 3000 people, but that was before the Strike Warfare Center was established there.
Anyway, I have the benefit of real world experience, but I didn't let that ruin it for me. LOVED the movie, just like I LOVED the original despite it having very little real-world connection to Naval Aviation. You don't get to buzz the tower even once, much less 5 times plus Penny Benjamin.Tell you what, though, Jack- the original did more for Navy recruiting during the Reagan era than every penny spent in the recruiting budget that year. In 1986 I already had my NROTC scholarship in hand, but the entire class showed up with Ray Bans, wanting to fly F-14's. God, I wish I could do it all over again.
https://www.youtube.com/c/CWLemoine
This is a channel from a former F16 / F18 fighter pilot, who amongst other videos often critiques movies with military aviation scenes in them, often also quite funny in the way he does it. I love professionals in whatever field taking apart Hollywood because it's entertaining but you also learn something.
One thing he also added when he watched the trailer for the movie was how Maverick regularly broke the "training bubble" rules ( a set distance that can't be intentionally broken for safety reasons) - something that in reality either would not happen or might get the pilot a long debrief the first time and probably dismissal for the second time. He went to see the movie with several other flyers and he loved it, basically stating that even with his professional eye noticing every mistake or breach of realism he was still thoroughly entertained - that's high praise from a figher pilot.
Yeah, it seems to be well-liked by professionals as being generally pretty accurate.
This is another really good video featuring actual Top Gun instructors.
This is another really good video featuring actual Top Gun instructors.
Saw this yesterday on a 270 degree screen where there's screens on either side of the theatre. Didn't really add much to the experience, but then it didn't need to.
What an excellent blockbuster that for me surpasses the original in every way and is instantly one of the best sequels ever made.
The story, whilst fairly predictable had enough beats to keep me interested, certainly more than the relatively superficial first movie (which I watched the night before), and integrated the call backs perfectly without bashing you over the head with them. There's plenty of emotional moments, especially Kilmers cameo and cruise handles it all in his stride like you'd come to expect from him.
It's the technical side where this movie literally reaches for the stratosphere though. If this doesn't bag an Oscar or other top award then I'll be hugely surprised. The flying scenes in this are jaw droppingly STUNNING, exciting, visceral and frankly shit all over the original and are big FU to your average CGI drenched blockbuster. Proper immersive, edge of your seat action the likes of which I don't think I've ever seen before. Hats off to the makers of this, when this film was announced I rolled my eyes and just thought 'cash grab' but here they have proved everyone wrong and delivered an action movie that I think deserves to be mentioned among the likes of T2, The Matrix, Die Hard, Aliens etc. It's that good.
An easy A+ for me. And I'm not even that big a fan of the original.
What an excellent blockbuster that for me surpasses the original in every way and is instantly one of the best sequels ever made.
The story, whilst fairly predictable had enough beats to keep me interested, certainly more than the relatively superficial first movie (which I watched the night before), and integrated the call backs perfectly without bashing you over the head with them. There's plenty of emotional moments, especially Kilmers cameo and cruise handles it all in his stride like you'd come to expect from him.
It's the technical side where this movie literally reaches for the stratosphere though. If this doesn't bag an Oscar or other top award then I'll be hugely surprised. The flying scenes in this are jaw droppingly STUNNING, exciting, visceral and frankly shit all over the original and are big FU to your average CGI drenched blockbuster. Proper immersive, edge of your seat action the likes of which I don't think I've ever seen before. Hats off to the makers of this, when this film was announced I rolled my eyes and just thought 'cash grab' but here they have proved everyone wrong and delivered an action movie that I think deserves to be mentioned among the likes of T2, The Matrix, Die Hard, Aliens etc. It's that good.
An easy A+ for me. And I'm not even that big a fan of the original.
Saw it for the second time yesterday and I hardly ever go twice. Was just as good the second time.
That was a goddamn movie. Unrealistic; yes, Air Force would have probably taken care of everything with a lot less fuss. Though the repercussions of said mission would be a whole new can of worms. Bombing a country, destroying a nuclear facility and airfield would generally piss off most countries. The movie glossed over the fact that they'd probably be in a shooting war by the time the credits roll. But it was still a highly entertaining movie.
