Tony Stark is MENTAL! He just Fragged the SRA Database.

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Guy Gardener, Jan 15, 2009.

  1. blockaderunner

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    It was "Armor Wars". Armour Wars was when Stark Industries' processed meat division was threatened by a rival sausage maker and Tony, as Iron Man, had to destroy his competition because it was reavealed that Justin Hammer was tainting the meat.

    I just read that and it doesn't even make sense to me. But I'll let it stand.
     
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  2. Guy Gardener

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    Imagine Colonel Sanders noticed that other people were selling chicken with HIS secret herbs and spices? What's a good'ol Boy gonna do but torch down even othe chicken hutch in America for abusing his genius?

    I loved "Stark Wars" when I was little, but i think it was all handled much better in "The Iron Secretary" when Stark realized that the had to return to the weapons business because everyone had caught up to him and they were making the same stuff he was 10 years earlier but just not as well or safely, because of all the explosions.
     
  3. Jolaris

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    Oh... And here I thought the only interesting bit in Brand New Day was that Mary Jane had told Mephisto that she wanted to be a superheroine to keep an eye on Peter or something like that. Oh, well, guess I was missing even less then I thought. :guffaw:
     
  4. Pensive

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    THIS, A THOUSAND TIMES THIS.

    I was a supporter of the SHRA and Stark, but I am seeing this sitch with Norman and Tony trying to erase his brain as totally FUBAR. I am ready to slap Matt Fraction and raise $$ to bribe Warren Ellis into writing some good Iron Man again.

    FFF erasing your brain. Tony, WTF call Reed SCIENCE DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY :scream:
     
  5. Mike Farley

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    Warren Ellis never wrote good Iron Man.
     
  6. Guy Gardener

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    I loved his Thor and his Excalibur was outstanding and frack me but who cares what else in the world he's written if there's books like Next Wave in his list of accomplishments...

    Extremis was utterly the beginning of his Deush era.

    i was reading new Warriors the other day and they traveled into the future... And Stark lost control of the SRA and his company and there's a big brother overlord in charge using the sra and stark tech to be the king of all...

    Frack.
     
  7. the Dagman

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    This just goes to show that all the people, like myself, who decried the actions of Tony Stark and Reed Richards during Civil War and later has all been drastically out of character. If it was just Stark and Richards in possession of the SHRA registration records, that would all be fine and good. But every reader could see the flaw in that, what happens when they get replaced and those records wind up in the hands of a politician? Yeah, Stark is a "futurist" that cannot even see past a couple years and a new political administration coming into power. And Richards was a protester of Mutant Registration, yet turns right around and not only sells out those same mutants (including his son and daughter) but every other hero he has ever known. Riiiiiiight.

    Now Osborn may not actually be a full blown politician, he is more slimy. But EVERYone knows you can't trust the Marvel U's US government. How long had they had to deal with Henry Gyrich's meddling into Avengers' affairs after all?

    The entire 616 has been fracked since Disassembled, when Quesada gave over the reigns of the whole world to Bendis and Millar who proceeded to just insert random heroes into their preconceived plot points. These guys are LOUSY writers. They may have a cool idea here and there, but when it comes time for them to execute the story and lay it all out there, they fall way short. Those two guys would have been better served if they had an editor like Jim Shooter who actually knows how to edit a book and is much more than just a traffic cop intermediary between the writer and artists.
     
  8. Guy Gardener

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    I liked the "end" of the story where Tony is saying "What the Hell happened to Reed? My god he doesn't care!" As if after instituting the SRA, it's actual implementation was completely unimportant to his psychohistorical forecast. Considering how the Mad Thinker was creaming himself over Reeds math, Norman, or someone like Norman being in charge would have been fortold and all the complications therafter would be despite "anything"still inevitably be leading bumpily to perhaps a pleasant conclusion.

    Where was I?

    So much is explained in Uncanny X-Men Annual 2 (They rebooted the numbering, don't be an idiot.) about how this all started! Apparantly Tony Stark spilt a drink on Norman at the Hellfire club sometime in the 80s. THATS IT!!!!!! It's a good read all about the secret sexy affair namor and Emma had in the "80s", but I'm more so inclined to wonder how off the deep end crazy te Murants have become that on the precipice like they now that they have finally6 given up the dream of living under single rule as humans that they now have their own secret priisons where they keep their enemies since humans and especially osborn can't be trusted not to swell the ranks of the Thunderbolts with all the bad guys they reign in.
     
  9. Admiral Buzzkill

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    Parallax. Parallax is behind everything.
     
  10. Hartzilla2007

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    And Superboy Prime punching reality while the Anti-Monitor Frags entire universes. Don't forget those two.
     
  11. Pensive

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    So I'm the only one around here who liked Extremis? :confused:
     
  12. Guy Gardener

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    Iron Man has fought both Quicksilver and Whirlwind. He fires on targets from 12 thousand feet up traveling at mach 10 with uncanny accuracy... But he's suddenly stymied by some bugger right up in his grill with probably reflexes maybe 2 or three times faster than an Olympic athlete who has quite bad breath?

    It was okay, and the art was fabulous, but the year between the last few issues ruined the flow of the storytelling, y'know.

    I'm still waiting for the last issue of Planetary.
     
  13. Ben Sisko3

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    Stop it, you two. Don't make me get the garden hose.

    I liked it!
     
  14. Norrin Radd

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    Just an aside: I was watching the history of Iron Man extras on my Iron Man DVD and was bemused how they skipped the beloved Armor Wars saga. It practically went from Demon in a Bottle to Extremis. Then they spent like a third of the doc talking about Extremis and Ultimate Iron Man. I was like...wtf?
     
  15. Guy Gardener

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    Why would they tell people what a deush he was?
     
  16. the Dagman

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    Don't forget Count Nefaria who duplicated Whirlwind's speed, only multiplied by one hundred. (in the some of the most kick-ass issues of Avengers, #164-166)
     
  17. Guy Gardener

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    Exactly inflating a weak villain to create friction and obstacle that shouldn't exist given if what had come before was still true.

    IE every single episode of Voyager.
     
  18. Norrin Radd

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    I thought Armor Wars at least gave him a good reason for being a renegade. Despite the fact he's breaking all the rules, you genuinely get the sense he's doing it for the greater good. But it's also a natural character progression; you don't get the sense that he's suddenly been taken over by Kang or Mark Millar.
     
  19. blockaderunner

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    A wizard did it.

    Or as Joey Q said to JMS regarding One More Day:


    "It's magic. We don't have to explain it."
     
  20. Guy Gardener

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    That's pretty ballsy of Joey to admit that he's killing cats to wring their blood into his hair while he's chanting and dancing naked int he moonlight.

    Especially since magic only works 80 percent of the time.