Toho is making their own Godzilla movies again!
- Thread starter Kai "the spy"
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It's tradition. They want that human touch. Although they've been using a mix of "suitmation" and CGI since Godzilla 2000: Millennium in 1999. Heck, even the '54 original used a mix of suit performance for the long shots of Godzilla and puppetry for the close-ups (although the puppet and suit had very different-looking heads, so it wasn't all that convincing).
I think I read that they intend to use CGI to enhance the suit footage, e.g. digitally distorting the features to create more facial expression than the physical suit is capable of, that sort of thing.
Thing is lizards and reptiles do not have much facial expression to begin with.
I can't remember which, but one CGI cartoon involving dinosaurs used the geometry of a horse so the animators would have more to work with.
I can't remember which, but one CGI cartoon involving dinosaurs used the geometry of a horse so the animators would have more to work with.
I think the child as main character and the attempt of having Godzilla fly might have been the director trying to upstage Gamera, who's movies, while not quite as popular as Godzilla's, were on the rise back then with the kid audience. It is contrasted by the darker atmosphere, actual references to human casualties of the monster battles, as well as depictions of drug use and the eco-political theme of the movie, which all adressed a more mature audience. One could say that this movie just wanted to please everyone.
Funny enough, director Yoshimitsu Banno was an executive producer on Legendary's Godzillal, so he returned to the franchise in a very big way.
But Godzilla is not a lizard or reptile. He's essentially a mythological beast. He's always been designed with anthropomorphic -- or at least anthropoid -- features, a blend of reptile and ape (forward-facing eyes, a short muzzle, etc.). And many earlier Godzilla incarnations have been given expression through puppetry or animatronics.
Anyway, I was just using that as an illustration of the technique, an example of my own choosing to try to get across the idea of how footage of a suit performer could be given more animation digitally. There are other things they could do as well, like morphing the skin of the suit to make it move more like living flesh and less like latex, give it more sense of musculature moving underneath the skin, that sort of thing. Again, not an accurate account of what they will do, just my own hamfisted attempt to concoct examples of how this technique might potentially be used.
Oh, to be sure. Still, it's definitely a weird, surreal, and trippy film, in a class by itself.
Interesting.
Banno was actually campaigning for a US Godzilla 3D short film circa 2005. I guess, when Legendary got the rights and wanted to make a feature, they kinda took Banno on board.
Looking at the Legendary movie, there are actually some parallels to Godzilla vs. Hedorah. Both have a pretty dark atmosphere, both have human families (two parents, one boy) at the center, both feature villain monster(s) both flight and earth-bound, both feature Godzilla as a saviour with rather sporadic appearances, both end with Godzilla returning to the see to the cheers of humans.
Looking at the Legendary movie, there are actually some parallels to Godzilla vs. Hedorah. Both have a pretty dark atmosphere, both have human families (two parents, one boy) at the center, both feature villain monster(s) both flight and earth-bound, both feature Godzilla as a saviour with rather sporadic appearances, both end with Godzilla returning to the see to the cheers of humans.
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Yep - I think this Godzilla is DEFINITELY overcompensating for SOMETHING with that tail.
That thing looks evil--a walking Hellmouth at last.
Wow--I'd like to know more about that.
Maybe use it the Champ the lake Monster.
I'd like to see those old Woodcut monsters with the big eyes done on screen.
Wow--I'd like to know more about that.
Maybe use it the Champ the lake Monster.
I'd like to see those old Woodcut monsters with the big eyes done on screen.
New merchandise
The toy ads also advertise yet unseen toys referred to only as "Kaiju A" and "Kaiju B"
He looks like the cookie monster or those little eyes you glue in art class
The toy ads also advertise yet unseen toys referred to only as "Kaiju A" and "Kaiju B"
He looks like the cookie monster or those little eyes you glue in art class
Statue of 2016 Toho Godzilla
Supposedly this is the first Godzilla, the one that died at the end of the first movie. Its corpse has been reanimated. It has been rotting away for the past 50 years
It's not "lava" it red meaty flesh..
It's not "lava" it red meaty flesh..
Not rotting, regenerating. The oxygen destroyer reduced Godzilla '54 (and very visibly so) to first a skeleton, then ash. It's taken 62 years for that ash to slowly pull itself together and reform into a living creature, and it's still a WIP when it emerges. The 'lava' look is from early in the film once it first re-emerged, and Godzilla slowly looks more and more like its' classic self as the film goes on.
Neither trailer has shown Big G's trademark nuclear breath. Maybe it doesn't get that back until near the end of the film, and has to make do with its' teeth, claws and tail until then.
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Yep - I think this Godzilla is DEFINITELY overcompensating for SOMETHING with that tail.
Neither trailer has shown Big G's trademark nuclear breath. Maybe it doesn't get that back until near the end of the film, and has to make do with its' teeth, claws and tail until then.
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I hadn't heard that. Do you have a source?
The 7 different Japanese Godzilla continuities to date have different ways of dealing with Godzilla's death in the original film. In the original Showa continuity, the '90s Heisei continuity, and the Kiryu-Mechagodzilla continuity, the original Godzilla is dead and a second one emerges later -- in 1955, 1984, and 1999 respectively. In Godzilla vs. Megaguirus, either the Oxygen Destroyer was never used at all or it failed to kill Godzilla completely; there's a point where the head scientist says that "this time" they have to make sure no part of him survives. In GMK, the original Godzilla has regenerated after 50 years and strikes again. Millennium is so vague about the backstory that it isn't even clear if the '54 movie happened at all, although apparently the film's website states that MireGoji is a second Godzilla rather than the original (which would explain why that film treats his emergence as a relatively recent phenomenon). Final Wars doesn't specify either, but it's kind of a Showa variant, so I'd assume it implicitly falls in the "second Godzilla" category.
So if ShinGoji is indeed a regenerated ShodaiGoji, that would make this the third continuity to feature the regenerated original Godzilla as opposed to a second member of the species. Fourth if you count the 2014 film, in which the attack on Tokyo and the use of the Oxygen Destroyer apparently never happened.
"Supposedly this upcoming feature, GODZILLA: RESURGENCE (in English) will go back to the original film, when Godzilla was killed by the Oxygen Destroyer. Apparently he’s been regenerating in the decades since, and when we first see him in the movie he’s still looking kinda rough, all raw and bloody and zombie-like. By the end of the movie he’ll be back to his scaly self."
This was from back when the project was first announced.
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It's an annoying thing. When you put in keywords like "Batman V Superman"
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