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TNG rewatch

I'll be starting a rewatch in a few weeks when my blurays come. But yeah having just rewatched EaF when the sampler came out Troi really needed dialing back. The awful scene where she says to Will "Wait if something should happen to you" was too much.

Why is that? I saw nothing wrong with it.
 
For the character it was hugely unprofessional, even if they had a past.

She is a trained Starfleet Officer and a counsellor, not a love struck teenager.
 
For the character it was hugely unprofessional, even if they had a past.

She is a trained Starfleet Officer and a counsellor, not a love struck teenager.

I'm critical of Troi on many levels, but.. going after her for displaying an emotion is a stretch.
 
The Last Outpost

So the Ferengi are introduced. Ferengi are really a well done alien. The face and size really do set them aside from the bumpy nosed alien of the week we see so often. And I'm amazed how their look stays consistent right from the start. Although their clothes do get a lot better by the time ds9 comes along.

I found the angle used on the view screen to be pretty odd though. Did we really need such an extreme closeup? though maybe it's so we can see the full facial structure that might have been missed in the scenes on the planet.

I found this to be a good episode. The bantering on the bridge seemed a bit out of place. Not to mention it was heard by the ferengi. I can't imagine Picard putting up with that. I also found it a bit odd that they walked away so easily from this portal without investigating it's memory banks a bit more. Seems like something they would be interested in.

Ahh, the Last Outpost - the episode showing a young Quark before he dropped out of the Ferengi military and moved to Terok Nor to tend bar... :lol:

I always thought the Ferengi Marauder was a neat-looking ship... I was disappointed that we went through 7 seasons of DS9 and never saw one. You'd think the Grand Nagus would use one to get around instead of those little shuttles.
 
Justice

The ship is assessing a utopian planet's suitability for shore leave when Wesley breaks a minor law in a zone where every infraction is punishable by death.

This is really a silly episode. It doesn't even make sense within itself. I think the main purpose of it is to have an excuse for a bunch of buff people to be running around almost naked. Those costumes really do not leave much to the imagination. The most annoying thing about the episode, well besides wesley's pants, is all the discussion around the prime directive. A big deal is made about how it would be a violation of the prime directive to rescue Wesley from a rather bizarre form of justice, but no one seems concerned that they openly told a pre warp society that they were from outer space. They even take someone up to their ship and show them "god".

The bubble alien who is guarding the planet is pretty interesting though. I do have to say so far the show has had an impressive array of aliens.



The Battle

The Ferengi give Picard his old command, the stargazer, as a gift.

Interesting episode. And thank goodness it wasn't about Wesley. I enjoyed learning more about Picard's past. Thought the concept of them trying to change the official view of what happened and manipulate Picard into attacking Enterprise was interesting. It shows the Ferengi understand the federation a whole lot better than the federation understands them. Or at least this one Damon does.

although it was wesley who figured the whole thing out in the end wasn't it.
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Hide and Q

Q returns and tries to tempt Riker by offering him Q powers.

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I've been trying to think of something to say about this episode for a couple days and there just isn't much. Sad to see they are wasting the concept of Q already.


Haven

Troy's intended groom arrives on the ship.

Yay! another episode that isn't about Wesley!

I like this episode. I think the connection between Troy and Wyatt is believable. And it's fairly realistic that adults brought together would have issues with other relationships to straighten out. Riker is just acting like a spoiled child though
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and I'm sure Troi calls him Bill once or twice.

I like the introduction of Luxanna as well. Although she comes off a little more meanspirited than she actually is.

Other than that my main commplaint is how quickly it is wrapped up in the end. I'd like to see Wyatt's decision unfold a little bit more.

And he should have taken a bit more medical equipment with him
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I'm going to start watching these on Netflix soon. I don't have a bluray player, but I'm hoping eventually I'll be able to find any bluray extras online or somewhere.
I started rewatching TNG when I had time off from work and BBC America decided to rerun them when I was home.I really hate their schedule, so, after I finish watching Voyager, which I haven't done since it first aired.
 
Weren't he aliens in Justice already aware of life on other planets? If they were then it's not a Prime Directive violation.

I'm not sure if there's any dialog that points one way or the other as to whether the Edo had been exposed to alien life before?
 
Justice- Well after the planet of all black people, we have a planet of scantilly clad Aryans. They wanted to kill Wesley though, so they get a pass.

The Battle- I liked the episode, it had backstory and the concept of the Picard Manuver was cool.

Haven- Well this introduces us to Lwuaxana Troi and... she gets even more over the top in future episodes. Really though, the plague ship concept was silly. They make it out to be a huge moral decision about destroying it or not... then just use the tractor beam at the end as if that was the plan all along.

Hide and Q- Easily the worst Q episode. They get better from here on out. Wesley gets impaled though, that's always fun to watch!
 
Weren't he aliens in Justice already aware of life on other planets? If they were then it's not a Prime Directive violation.

I'm not sure if there's any dialog that points one way or the other as to whether the Edo had been exposed to alien life before?

I pretty sure that there was mention that they had previous contact with aliens. I might be wrong as it's been more than a decade since i've seen Justice.
 
The big goodbye

Picard, Crusher, Data, and some red shirt are trapped in the holodeck in Dixon Hill program


God I hate holodeck episodes. Is this some attempt to save money on special effects this episode or something? cause really that is the only thing that explains it. It would have been somewhat redeeming if they had actually solved the murder in the program rather than what they did, which was nothing. Then when Wesley finally gets the doors open they all stand around and discuss the holodeck with the holodeck creations. And why weren't wesley, Geordie and Riker standing outside the doors?

Wesley being the only one to work on the doors seemed ludicrous as well. Really, he was the only one who could get them open? Scotty would have just shot them open with a phaser. Or, manually done it.

then the story surrounding it about the Jaradan negotiations. All that drama building up to talking to them then they exchange one friendly greeting and fly away?
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Datalore

The Enterprise travels to the planet Data was found on to find a dead planet and another data.


I liked this episode. We learned a great deal about data's background without any tedious explanations. The mystery on the planet was creepy and mysterious. Lore was sinister and dangerous. Wesely got told to shut up. The crystaline entity was another great special effect.

found it curious however how they kept bringing up where Data's loyalty would now be. They didn't ask Troi that when her mother got there. Seems unlikely an android without emotion would be more likely to be swayed by family than a human officer.


Angel one

This episode is all kinds of lame. The planet is obviously some based on some writers fantasy about how a planet of matriarchs would respond to a "real" man. The sets all look like an 80's dentists office. The "love" scene between Riker and the elected one is just creepy. The virus outbreak onboard the Enterprise is ridiculous. Why does no one realize it came from the holodeck? How could it have come from the holodeck? Then the way riker talks them out of executing the prisoners is reminiscent of Kirk talking computers into killing themselve. Guess their convictions aren't really that strong in the first place.
 
The big goodbye

Picard, Crusher, Data, and some red shirt are trapped in the holodeck in Dixon Hill program


God I hate holodeck episodes. Is this some attempt to save money on special effects this episode or something? cause really that is the only thing that explains it. It would have been somewhat redeeming if they had actually solved the murder in the program rather than what they did, which was nothing. Then when Wesley finally gets the doors open they all stand around and discuss the holodeck with the holodeck creations. And why weren't wesley, Geordie and Riker standing outside the doors?

Wesley being the only one to work on the doors seemed ludicrous as well. Really, he was the only one who could get them open? Scotty would have just shot them open with a phaser. Or, manually done it.

then the story surrounding it about the Jaradan negotiations. All that drama building up to talking to them then they exchange one friendly greeting and fly away?
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Datalore

The Enterprise travels to the planet Data was found on to find a dead planet and another data.


I liked this episode. We learned a great deal about data's background without any tedious explanations. The mystery on the planet was creepy and mysterious. Lore was sinister and dangerous. Wesely got told to shut up. The crystaline entity was another great special effect.

found it curious however how they kept bringing up where Data's loyalty would now be. They didn't ask Troi that when her mother got there. Seems unlikely an android without emotion would be more likely to be swayed by family than a human officer.


Angel one

This episode is all kinds of lame. The planet is obviously some based on some writers fantasy about how a planet of matriarchs would respond to a "real" man. The sets all look like an 80's dentists office. The "love" scene between Riker and the elected one is just creepy. The virus outbreak onboard the Enterprise is ridiculous. Why does no one realize it came from the holodeck? How could it have come from the holodeck? Then the way riker talks them out of executing the prisoners is reminiscent of Kirk talking computers into killing themselve. Guess their convictions aren't really that strong in the first place.

For some reason a lot of people like the Big Goodbye. I can't figure out why, the plot was even more artifical than the holodeck they were in. And yeah... there are many more holodeck episodes that span all the franchises.

Datalore was a good episode. It was inevitable that Data would get an exposition episode and this one filled the role nicely. As for Data's loyalty? I dunno... he's expressed interest in his orgins, his creation and if there are others out there like him. Though why would Troi be disloyal because her mom comes on board? Troi's mom is a high ranking ambassador in the Federation so there's not much of a conflict of interest there. But Lore can't be all bad, he did want to kill Wesley. :p Either way both him and the Crystalline Entity will return in future episodes.

Angel One? Oh the Riker Gigolo episode. That pretty much sums it up. I mean, I love TNG but their guest aliens in season 1 were incredibly two dimentional. We have the planet of all black people who are quasi primitive and kidnap a white woman. We have the planet of blond haired, blue eyed toga wearing Aryans who just lounge around all day and now we have the planet of matriarchs with scantily(and silly) clad submissive males.
 
hey R.Star good to see you

Thanks. Yeah, I can post over here without server crashes, spammers or having to enter annoying captcha's that do nothing to stop said spammers. Too much of a headache to participate on ST.com as much as I liked the folks over there.
 
I love TNG but their guest aliens in season 1 were incredibly two dimentional. We have the planet of all black people who are quasi primitive and kidnap a white woman. We have the planet of blond haired, blue eyed toga wearing Aryans who just lounge around all day and now we have the planet of matriarchs with scantily(and silly) clad submissive males.
Not to mention the lizard creatures who wanted to eat the wolf creatures or vice-versa. Even the Ferengi come off as one-dimensional.

It's as if humans are the only species in Trek who have any kind of diversity!
 
The Ferengi always struck me as one-dimensional in TNG; they just got a bit... better about it as the show went on.

It's been a while since I've seen quite a few episodes, though, so if there are any examples of more three-dimensional Ferengi, do tell. From what I recall offhand, they didn't start coming across as anything more than one-trick ponies until Quark, and even then, any Ferengi treatment on TNG while it was still on the air alongside DS9 remained rather shallow.
 
The Ferengi always struck me as one-dimensional in TNG; they just got a bit... better about it as the show went on.

It's been a while since I've seen quite a few episodes, though, so if there are any examples of more three-dimensional Ferengi, do tell. From what I recall offhand, they didn't start coming across as anything more than one-trick ponies until Quark, and even then, any Ferengi treatment on TNG while it was still on the air alongside DS9 remained rather shallow.

Daimon Bok from "The Battle".
 
The Ferengi always struck me as one-dimensional in TNG; they just got a bit... better about it as the show went on.

It's been a while since I've seen quite a few episodes, though, so if there are any examples of more three-dimensional Ferengi, do tell. From what I recall offhand, they didn't start coming across as anything more than one-trick ponies until Quark, and even then, any Ferengi treatment on TNG while it was still on the air alongside DS9 remained rather shallow.

Daimon Bok from "The Battle".

He was good and reappeared in season 7 for revenge. "The Price" and "Menage a Trois" also had some decent potrayals of the Ferengi.
 
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