TNG: Immortal Coil by Jeffrey Lang Review Thread (Spoilers!)

Discussion in 'Trek Literature' started by Sho, Oct 28, 2012.


Rate Immortal Coil.

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  1. Smitty

    Smitty Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    May 30, 2006
    Dallas/Fort Worth, TX
    Does the book have annotations for all the reference?
  2. BillJ

    BillJ Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Jan 30, 2001
    No. And I never needed one. :shrug:
  3. bok2384

    bok2384 Commander Red Shirt

    Apr 5, 2006
    Warwickshire, UK
    I just want to thank you all for getting me back into reading Star Trek books. I was an avid reader up until about six months ago, but I just became so bored by it all. Then I saw this thread and a remember enjoying this book when it first came out. This time, I really enjoyed it. Being a fan of The Original Series, I had no problem getting all of the references and it is a credit to Jeffrey Lang that all of these cameos wasn't to the detriment of the story.

    Yes, there are a couple of criticisms that other posters have outlined, but that was pushed aside by the excellent addition of Rhea McAdams and "Emil Vaslovik". I enjoyed it so much, I moved straigh on to The Persistence of Memory. :)
  4. Therin of Andor

    Therin of Andor Admiral Admiral

    Jun 30, 2004
    New Therin Park, Andor (via Australia)
    Well, you do if you know TOS. And "The Questor Tapes". Each new cameo is a little revelation and you end up anticipating more and more.

    Some did. Understandably, TNG-only fans thought they'd missed something important when they realised how many TOS cameos there were. But they were mostly easter eggs, secret little winks for those in the know.
  5. Emh

    Emh The Doctor Premium Member

    Jul 20, 2000
    Durham, North Carolina
    Oh, with that in mind, the same is true about Good Omens.

    Damn, I really need to start working on the Discworld books...
  6. Reanok

    Reanok Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Dec 26, 2002
    :techman:I'm halfway through this novel and really like how Data was written in this novel.He certainly got more charcter developement than some of the older TNG books I've read recently.This is a great book I really like it alot.
    Last edited: Nov 8, 2012
  7. RPJOB

    RPJOB Commander Red Shirt

    Apr 11, 2012
    I enjoyed the novel but found the Questor connection to be overly cute. I felt the same way about the Millenium Falcon showing up in Vanguard.

    It did feel a bit small universe but it was interesting to sort of tie things together, just to see how they'd fit.
  8. Markonian

    Markonian Commodore Commodore

    Jun 2, 2012
    Yorkshire, UK
    The Millennium Falcon was in Vanguard? When, where, who was the owner? Was the ship design hinted at or the name called out loud? :wtf:

    As far as I know, the MF is a 24th century Federation starship participating the Battle of Sector 001 (First Contact). :borg:
  9. Deranged Nasat

    Deranged Nasat Vice Admiral Admiral

    Well, actually it was mynocks that showed up in Vanguard. Or nymocks, to use their devious alias. They were chewing on power cables, of course.
  10. David Mack

    David Mack Writer Commodore

    Jan 25, 2003
    New York, NY
    ^ I think RPJOB was referring to a ship described in the series' fifth novel, Precipice. In a scene featuring T'Prynn and Pennington, on page 74, last paragraph:
  11. Deranged Nasat

    Deranged Nasat Vice Admiral Admiral

    Oh! I missed that. :)
  12. Patrick O'Brien

    Patrick O'Brien Captain Captain

    Feb 9, 2012
    Brooklyn NY
    ^That's awesome, I missed it too:lol:
  13. Sho

    Sho Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Sep 8, 2006
    Berlin, Germany
    There's also some cuteness around "nymock" creatures (play on "mynock") in the same section IIRC.
  14. Mage

    Mage Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Jun 17, 2007
    Loved that, one of the geekiest moments in TrekLit. I had to read it three times to make sure I didn't misread it.
  15. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

    Mar 15, 2001
    I don't think I ever would've read that as a Millennium Falcon reference. When I read "teardrop-shaped," I visualize something that's shaped that way three-dimensionally, kinda like the fuselage of SpaceShipOne or the Protector from Galaxy Quest. To me, the Falcon is a saucer-shaped ship with "pincers" on the front.

    And why is a reference to Star Wars geekier than a whole novel about Star Trek?
  16. Turtletrekker

    Turtletrekker Vice Admiral Admiral

    Aug 23, 2003
    Tacoma, Washington

    I missed that entierly! Nicely done. :)
  17. Markonian

    Markonian Commodore Commodore

    Jun 2, 2012
    Yorkshire, UK
    Because if you know that much about two geeky franchises, it's geek²! :bolian:
  18. BrentMc

    BrentMc Commander Red Shirt

    Feb 4, 2006
    California U.S.A.
    I wanted to read this book every since I read "Cold Equations." I finally got around to it and I really liked it. I wish I had read it first. I like how it tied together event from TOS and TNG. The use of the M-5 computer was a nice touch. Great characters, great story. A fun read.
  19. Enterpriserules

    Enterpriserules Commodore Commodore

    Aug 11, 2005
    On an Andorian Atlire-class escort cruisers, the
    Just interviewed Jeff about the book on Literary Treks and it's out now! I have to say, just read this book and love it! To me it's a watershed book in Trek lit and really made me like Data, a character that I have never been that keen on. Well done!
  20. Reanok

    Reanok Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Dec 26, 2002
    I just listened to your latest podcast.You had a great discussion with Jeffrey Lang about Immortal Coil. It's one of my favorite Data Novels.:techman: