TNG "Haunted Ships" Trek lit help

[TroiFan4ever]

I need an editor to help me out with my "Haunted Ships" novel. It's post "All Good Things..." but still set in the year 2370, the year before "Generations" took place.

I need it edited and co-written. I need an editor really familiar with TNG. Please and thank you!

 

[Daddy Todd]

What is this novel for? Your own amusement? A fanfic site?

How much money are you offering someone to write your fanfic for you?

 

[TroiFan4ever]

I'm posting it to fanfiction.net. I also thought about publishing it with Pocket Books.

The editor doesn't need to write the whole story for me, just clean up all mistakes and this and that. I was going to credit the person for editing it and co-writing it.

 

[Thrawn]

Publishing with Pocket Books doesn't exactly work like that. You have to submit an outline and get it approved first, and I'm reasonably sure they're only accepting agented submissions.

 

[elaithin]

If you do attempt to get it published, though, I'm pretty sure you shouldn't put it online first.

 

[Thrawn]

Either way, this should be in the fanfic forum.

 

[Christopher]

Publishing with Pocket Books doesn't exactly work like that. You have to submit an outline and get it approved first, and I'm reasonably sure they're only accepting agented submissions.

Exactly. You do not write the novel first and then try to sell it to them. That works with original fiction (like my novel Only Superhuman that I recently sold and can't resist plugging at every opportunity ), but with tie-ins, you're playing with someone else's toys, so you need their approval every step of the way. The most you can do is submit an outline and three sample chapters to the editors as an audition (and yes, that has to be through an agent), and if they like your writing, they might ask you to develop a different novel.

 

[Daddy Todd]

I'm posting it to fanfiction.net. I also thought about publishing it with Pocket Books.

The editor doesn't need to write the whole story for me, just clean up all mistakes and this and that. I was going to credit the person for editing it and co-writing it.

So. basically you're offering someone the pleasure of cleaning up your work purely for the pleasure of cleaning up your work?

If I had the skills to write something publishable (or the skills to rewrite someone else's stuff and make it publishable) why would I do it for free?

My advice would be to find a writing group that would be willing to read and critique your work -- and in exchange you would read and critique their work. I did that 20-25 years ago, and learned I didn't have the discipline needed to become a professional writer. (One member of that group became David Farland and has written a best selling fantasy series -- and also, as Dave Wolverton, one of the worst Star Wars novels I've ever read. So even being in a writing group can't fix everything.)

 

[TroiFan4ever]

Publishing with Pocket Books doesn't exactly work like that. You have to submit an outline and get it approved first, and I'm reasonably sure they're only accepting agented submissions.

I don't have an agent. I'm trying to get one. I just recently finished a non-Trek novel that I've submitted. They never got back to me. My aunt is looking at it. Then when she critiques my work, I'll fix any and all mistakes and resubmit it to them.

If you do attempt to get it published, though, I'm pretty sure you shouldn't put it online first.

It'll be a long time before it gets to the stores. I was going to upload it, then take it down when it's about to be published. This guy always seem to get the Trek novels anyway. I'm surprised he doesn't yet have the new TNG novel, Indisitiguished from Magic or whatever.
And besides, if the story plot isn't something CBS is digging, and they tell my agent they don't like it. I guess I'm screwed anyhow.

Either way, this should be in the fanfic forum.

My mistake.

So. basically you're offering someone the pleasure of cleaning up your work purely for the pleasure of cleaning up your work? My advice would be to find a writing group that would be willing to read and critique your work -- and in exchange you would read and critique their work. I did that 20-25 years ago, and learned I didn't have the discipline needed to become a professional writer. (One member of that group became David Farland and has written a best selling fantasy series -- and also, as Dave Wolverton, one of the worst Star Wars novels I've ever read. So even being in a writing group can't fix everything.)

Aye, sir.

What was the worst Star Wars novel you ever read?

What is this novel for? Your own amusement? A fanfic site?
If I had the skills to write something publishable (or the skills to rewrite someone else's stuff and make it publishable) why would I do it for free?

You just answered you own question, lol.

 

[JD]

So. basically you're offering someone the pleasure of cleaning up your work purely for the pleasure of cleaning up your work? My advice would be to find a writing group that would be willing to read and critique your work -- and in exchange you would read and critique their work. I did that 20-25 years ago, and learned I didn't have the discipline needed to become a professional writer. (One member of that group became David Farland and has written a best selling fantasy series -- and also, as Dave Wolverton, one of the worst Star Wars novels I've ever read. So even being in a writing group can't fix everything.)

Aye, sir.

What was the worst Star Wars novel you ever read?

I'm pretty sure he's referring to The Courtship of Princess Leia, which I didn't think was that bad. It isn't anywhere being one of my favorites, but I still found it more or less enjoyable.

 

[sojourner]

It'll be a long time before it gets to the stores. I was going to upload it, then take it down when it's about to be published. This guy always seem to get the Trek novels anyway. I'm surprised he doesn't yet have the new TNG novel, Indisitiguished from Magic or whatever.
And besides, if the story plot isn't something CBS is digging, and they tell my agent they don't like it. I guess I'm screwed anyhow.

I'm not sure you understand. If you post it online you will basically guarantee that a publisher won't touch it. Why should they spend money printing something that has already been given away for free??

 

[Daddy Todd]

(One member of that group became David Farland and has written a best selling fantasy series -- and also, as Dave Wolverton, one of the worst Star Wars novels I've ever read. So even being in a writing group can't fix everything.)

Aye, sir.

What was the worst Star Wars novel you ever read?

Google "Dave Wolverton" and "Star Wars". The second response will take you to the book on Amazon.

And I said "ONE of the worst." Not "the worst." But I'll cop to The Courtship of Princess Leia being by far the most annoying I've ever read. Annoying because he painted Leia as a simpering, boy-crazy dolt. Wolverton was not a fan of "feminist" SF, and was making a deliberate attempt to write an anti-feminist SF story, using Leia, who was something of a feminist heroine, to make his point.

To borrow a phrase from Trek fandom, it was characterization rape of the highest order.

The worst Star Wars novel I ever read was probably something by KJA. Couldn't say which one, it was a long, long time ago.

Bear in mind that I stopped reading Star Wars novels after seeing The Phantom Menace and deciding to make a concerted effort to never slip another dime into Lucas's overstuffed pockets.