So you would for example remove a native tribe just because it's in your way?
TMP Seems more "Futuristic" Then "Star Trek '09"
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So you would for example remove a native tribe just because it's in your way?
Do you also remove all the good that happens later on because you move that tribe? You keep trying to frame the issue of interference in a purely negative light...
You don't know what happens in the future!
Would you shoot a random stranger on the street, yes or no? "Oh, well, I don't know, maybe something good will come of it in the future."
Let's frame it in Star Trek terms.
In Star Trek: First Contact we learn that after meeting the Vulcans we wipe out poverty, hunger and disease in fifty years. Does this happen without the Vulcans landing on our doorstep and showing us there's more to the universe than just us?
It seems to me that in this instance interference was a good thing.
In Star Trek: First Contact we learn that after meeting the Vulcans we wipe out poverty, hunger and disease in fifty years. Does this happen without the Vulcans landing on our doorstep and showing us there's more to the universe than just us?
It seems to me that in this instance interference was a good thing.
If I move one tribe can I grow enough corn to feed thousands?
If there is contamination there is still the decision on what to do about it, personally I think they should be hands off, and let THAT be their new history, otherwise any NEW interference can exacerbate the problem. Two cases in point: "A Private Little War"...Kirk starts an arms race before a planet's population is ready for the weaponry (one could argue we also are not ready for certain weapons we develop on Earth, but's that's a whole other story). Klingons introduced them first, but Kirk's decision to arm everyone is a disaster for the planet! They'll probably be extinct within 50 years.
A Piece of the Action: Kirk's decision will probably mean they'll have 23rd century technology within a few decades, with it, their potentially "gangster" like attitude.
These are only two examples..
In terms of "non-Interference" with similar advanced cultures, I'm sure Gene Coon also did not believe the UFP should be imperialistic.
RAMA
Yes, you can. But the tribe doesn't want to go. It lived there for thousands of years. You're also destroying everything what's holy and sacred for them by turning everything into cropland. You'd destroy everything they are.
What about you? Tomorrow, aliens land on Earth. They say we need to go, because they need this planet, badly. Their people are dying. Overcrowded cities, diseases, they need food and medicine, and our planet has it. But we need to go. Would you go? And moreover, they force you to pray to their gods. Force you to abide their rules. They regard you as inferior species. They enslave you. But it's all perfectly fine for them because they badly need it. You like that?
So you say.
There's nothing unusual about this...they are allowed to make contact with cultures who possess light speed travel, its a different story when you start to interfere with it. The Vulcans were also very careful with post-contact protocols, as was the UFP in "First Contact"...and the planet CHOSE if it were to enter the UFP. No one told them they needed a treaty port...
RAMA
So you'd allow the villagers to execute the hill people. Nice! Gene Roddenberry didn't agree since he wrote the screenplay for the episode.
I doubt it since they were bringing in specialists to oversee what was going on.
Logical progression...backwards culture, small populations, advanced weaponry...you do the math.
RAMA
Evolution is a bitch ain't it? If I can't defend what is mine... then what makes it mine?
Wow.
In case you haven't noticed... the universe is a harsh, harsh place.
And you're a tough, tough guy, yeah I get it.
Not at all.
But many people have turned what is a good idea in the Prime Directive, a concept of don't fuck with it if you don't have to, into religious dogma.
Interestingly...the Vietnam War commentary actually agreed with the US involvement in Vietnam...
Kirk should have left the planet, let whatever happened occur, ending planetary interference, while blockading or appealing to the Organians against the Klingons...unfortunate, but much better than an arms race.
If the specialists survive...
RAMA
In other words, the Federaton should be just like Klingons and take what it wants! This doesn't surprise me at all.
Also he is stating the basic, inaccurate statement repeated by fascist dogma that were uninformed in the past, the so-called "survival of the fittest", when more accurately it's "survival of the best adapted."
RAMA
