I don't disagree. I loved TMP even when all I had was the VHS-Extended Version. The DE was even better because they went in and fixed some of the pacing issues (which was even more important then fixing a couple Effects shots IMO). Now I agree with some that maybe they cut a few bits of dialogue that could have been left in. But overall it improved what I already thought was a great movie. I was glad they fixed the 82 AU line from the original film to say a much more reasonable 2 AU (which is still huge beyond belief--though when you see the Enterprise fly over V'Ger's vessel it does give it credence, it is HUGE, but 82 AU, wouldn't that be half the solar system?).
But yes, it's not perfect. I loved the V'ger flyby on the one hand but it does look a bit ridiculous that the crew is staring dumbfounded at the screen for much of the time (though I've been a bit forgiving--I figured maybe that it was so unlike anything they've ever seen that they really were dumbfounded for a few moments, plus I guess there really wasn't much that they could do). But at the same time I was even mesmerized by some of the effects work and I think that was helped by Goldsmith's score. So while it may stretch out a bit long, I'm not sure what I'd cut out.
Some of the characterizations were a bit off too. Particularly Shatner, who was uncharacteristically subdued. Now that might sound like a good thing, but I thought he was much better in TWOK, where his personality came out a bit more without going off the deep end like I thought he did in TFF, TUC and Generations. I'd almost say Nimoy too, but one of the themes of the film was Spock finding what he needed (just like V'Ger). That he was empty to start but by the end of the film he was much more like the Spock we've come to know. McCoy was spot on though--back to his irascible self, you can always depend on DeForrest Kelley.
And the story itself was basically an extended knock off of The Changeling and to a lesser extent the Doomsday Machine. Or at least it started from that angle but took it in a different direction I thought. After all V'Ger wasn't destroyed/
That's something I always liked about Stanley Kubrick films, and the more recent Paul Thomas Anderson films. They are very meticulous about their work and they are almost every bit as important as the actors in the film. And I'm a huge Hitchcock fan for the same reason (one reason I have almost no respect for Academy Awards is the man never won Best Director--literally the best director to ever walk this Earth never won one for Best Director, you think, Rear Window, North by Northwest, Notorious, Saboteur, Psycho, The Birds, To Catch a Thief.....need I go on). Robert Wise was definitely one of those sorts of directors with his own distinct styles.
I think when you get down to it that's probably why TMP is my favorite Trek film, beyond being the movie to bring me into the fold. That it was a thoughtful science fiction film without a standard villain. When you think about it, it was the only Star Trek film to really get a big movie budget until Star Trek (2009). I think that allowed them to go deep into the sci-fi element. And TWOK picked it up from the other end, which is true. I loved TWOK too, but it doesn't capture the sci-fi element like TMP does. I can see why TWOK is usually considered more popular (and I know a lot of people who think that was the best Star Trek film). It has more action and it's more exciting. Action films are great and TWOK is a fun, entertaining film to watch. But it's not really "intelligent" in the way TMP was.
In a way it's probably why I loved Alien more than Aliens. They were both great films but they were more or less different genres (other than sharing a basic sci-fi plot). Aliens was much more an action film, like TWOK, and it was a fun, intense picture. But Alien was more sci-fi, and more horror too. Interesting also is the music composers were the same too, Goldsmith for Alien and Horner for Aliens, not sure if that had anything to do with it, but I found the parallel interesting.
I agree with most of that, but have to disagree on Alien vs Aliens. The second is actually much more SF than the first, but people don’t notice because of the action. It’s also got much more character development and subtext, but again, it isn’t thought of first because of ‘splosions. I can extend on that if you like. XD